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Originally Posted September 29, 2018
by Robert Baty

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In a YouTube broadcast dated September 14, 2018, Josh Bernstein hosted Kent Hovind and allowed Kent Hovind to promote his false legal narrative without challenge.

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To date, Josh Bernstein has refused to respond to my request/offer that he host a program featuring me responding to his promotion of Kent Hovind and Kent Hovind’s false legal narrative.

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Link to Josh Bernstein’s Hovind Broadcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVHQI9DuFM

 

 

 

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Link to Josh Bernstein FaceBook Page

https://www.facebook.com/josh.bernstein.104

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Link to Josh Bernstein’s Wikipedia Entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Bernstein_(talk_show_host)

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Link to Pro-Bernstein Biographical Page

http://www.freedominamericaradio.com/josh-bernstein-biography/

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“The Josh Bernstein Show promises to cover the news and issues affecting our nation the way the mainstream media refuses to do, with raw truth, brutal honesty, and sincere integrity. Josh promises his listeners expert insight and analysis without the ‘talking points’.”

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I have learned that is not the case. – RLBaty

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Link to “Right Wing Watch” Articles on Josh Bernstein

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/people/josh-bernstein/

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Transcription of Bernstein/Hovind Broadcast

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This transcription is based on a rather imperfect YouTube transcription with editing by Robert Baty.  It is subject to further editing as may be deemed appropriate.

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(Begin transcription.)

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Introduction:

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The opinions statements and facts expressed on the Josh Bernstein show are solely those of the host and do not reflect the opinions or beliefs of any of the show’s advertisers or sponsors.  
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There are plenty of places to get fake news but the Josh Bernstein show, well, that ain’t one of them.  
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A truth seeker and a truth teller; Josh covers the stories that the mainstream media mental midgets miss, and probably do so on purpose.
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Censored, suppressed, shadow banned and shunned, but never silenced; The Josh Bernstein show starts where the rest of the media ends.
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And now here’s America’s favorite freedom fighter, Josh Bernstein.
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Josh Bernstein

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Welcome back to the program my guest today knows firsthand what it is like to have been targeted because you have a different ideological and religious position from your peers.
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Arrested and incarcerated for eight long years for minor nonviolent offenses showed him and other religious leaders what lengths our judicial system will go to in order to harass and silence those they disagree with. 
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While incarcerated he wrote an incredible 38 books including “The Kennel: Exposing The Prison Industrial Complex From The Inside”.
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Please welcome to the show Dr. Kent Hovind.
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Dr. Hovind how are you doing today?
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Kent Hovind

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Hey, I’m doing very well. Good to be with you.  It’s a little hot here in Lenox, AL, but doing fine.
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Josh Bernstein

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Gotcha!  Well, where I’m at it’s a little warm as well.  Um, so what I want to do is, I know that you’ve talked about this and thankfully you’re out and about and free and that’s wonderful and great, but I want you to just kind of give us a brief synopsis of what exactly happened that led to your incarceration.
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Kent Hovind

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Well, let’s say I’ve been a Baptist preacher, evangelist, since 1974.  I started a ministry in Pensacola 1989; called Creation Science Evangelism.   I deal with topic of the scientific accuracy of the Bible.  I believe the Bible as written is literally true and scientifically accurate and the earth is only about six thousand years old.  Our ministry, drdino.com, our website Creation Science Evangelism deals with creation v. evolution.  
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One of the many aspects of that evolution theory involves how it affects people’s thinking process and how evolution theory is behind the theory and philosophy of government.  One philosphy says we have rights that come from God because we were created by God.  That was the founders of this country who said we hold these truths to be self-evident, all me are created equal.  They are endowed by their creator with certain rights.
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There are those systems of government like communism etc that do not think there is a creator and therefore rights from government.  You have the right to breathe because the government says so, as opposed to God says so.  So, vastly different philosophies of government based on creation or evolution.
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(snip)
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Well, the IRS came after me and investigated for 10 years, couldn’t find anything wrong.  So, they finally came and arrested me with a SWAT team in 2006.
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“What am I being arrested for?”
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They said you are being arrested for “structuring”.
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“What’s that?”
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They said five years ago you took money out of the bank in amounts less than $10,000.
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Josh Bernstein

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Yeah and, everybody does that.
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Kent Hovind

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They gave me a 10-year sentence for that!
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Josh Bernstein

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For taking money out of the bank for less than $10,000.  
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Kent Hovind

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Go to KentHovindIsInnocent.com!
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There’s a guy (Brady Byrum) who did an investigation of our case.  This paralegal did a 15-month research on our case and said,  
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“Kent, you broke no laws.  
The government broke 100 laws. 
They wanted to shut you up for 
some other reason.  You never even
broke the structuring law.”
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It turns out Congress passed the law to catch drug dealers.  They said if you take out over ten thousand dollars the bank has to fill out some form called the Cash Transaction Report which I’d never heard of.  So the drug dealers to try to avoid that form, to try to evade that form; they would go in the morning and take out ninety five hundred, go in the afternoon to take out ninety five hundred.  So they were structuring their transactions to evade the reporting requirement.   
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OK, we never did that!
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Our ministry was building a lot of projects at the time.  We had, we’d purchased nine older houses in the neighborhood; had to remodel all of them.  So once every two weeks we would go get $9,500; if we had it.  Out of the bank in cash, because we were paying all kinds of different people to do different things, and and pay the bills.   It was ministry money for a ministry project, no drugs involved, ever.  And there was not two transactions in one day.  It was one transaction and ten or twelve or fourteen days later one more transaction.
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No structuring ever.
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Twice during the year and a half time period they charged me with, we took out over $10,000 and the bank filled out their stupid form.
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I don’t care what the bank fills out.  They can fill out a form every day if they like.  I don’t care.   It’s a bank form.   It’s got nothing to do with the person.  
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So when they arrested me and charged me with structuring we went to trial.  At the end of the IRS giving their dog and pony show my attorney said, 
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“Kent, don’t even give a defense.
You broke no laws at all.”
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I said,
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“I know.”
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So we did not give a defense.  
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…Then, he was giving the law, jury instructions at the end he said, 
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“Now jury, the law says that you have to 
take out more than ten thousand.
Kent never did that.”  
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US Attorney objected.  
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The judge went back, had a twenty minute recess and changed the jury instructions, and told the jury if you find out Kent took out less than $10,000, changed from more than to less than, which changed the law.
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Have you ever taken out less than $10,000 from your bank.
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Josh Bernstein

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Yes, I have many times.
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Kent Hovind

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OK, then you are guilty; just as guilty as I am.  
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Josh Bernstein

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Guilty as charged, I guess.
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So, well this judge. I’ve heard that this judge has had a propensity and a history of bias against religious leaders and and Christians and things like that.   I know that this is a radical judge of course that proceeded over the court hearings.
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Kent Hovind

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Well, the whole northern district of Florda U.S. Attorney’s office seems to be pretty anti-Christian.
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When the judge Margaret Casey Rogers, who is still the federal judge down there, when she got off (the bench) and went down in front of the jury, which you’re not supposed to do, and told the jury if you find he took out less than $10,000 you must find him guilty.
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Josh Bernstein

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Isn’t that taining the jury?
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Kent Hovind

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I think so.  There are lots of
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Josh Bernstein

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Sounds like coercion almost with the jury.
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Kent Hovind

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It got worse.  So the jury said, “why yes, he’s guilty of taking out less than $10,000”.
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So, the judge said, “thank you“, and dismissed the jury.
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Then at sentencing the judge said, “The maximum sentence for this crime is 6 months; 0 to 6 months”.
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But the judge said, “This crime is worse than rape, I’m enhancing”.
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Josh Bernstein

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Wow!
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Kent Hovind

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We paid $6,400 to get the transcript of the trial. You get the transcript of the trial typically in about two months.  It took 16 months to get my transcript.  By the time we got it, it had been changed/altered and the “worse than rape” comment was gone.
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Eight people were there in the courthouse, including a woman who had been raped, said,
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“I heard her say ‘worse than rape'”,
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and it’s not in the transcript.  What happened.  Eight affidavits filled out.
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So, anyway I spent almost nine years in federal prison for structuring,  in taking our own money out of their own bank to pay our own bill.
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Then the US attorney said that all that money that was structured 5 years ago, we believe all that should be forfeited to the government under drug law, Title 21.
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Josh Bernstein

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Is there any way that you can sue either this judge, these prosecutors and/or the state of Florida for wrongful prosecution in this case?
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Kent Hovind

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In this case, well, right now the quickest route is for President Trump to issue a pardon.  If a hundred thousand people write a letter or contact the White House.
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Go to KentHovindIsInnocent.com website and tells you how to do that, but if enough people to that…  He can simply say he is pardoned, his case is turned over.
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(Garbled!)
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Well, I heard they seized a thousand and forty-six small businesses.  They just walked in and seized their bank account.  Guilty til proven innocent.
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Josh Bernstein

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Unbelievable!
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Well look, thank God you’re out.   I know that that doesn’t make it any better.  You still have to spend almost nine years in prison for something that, you know, many people have robbed banks or done armed robbery and have served less time; even on first or second or even third offenses sometimes.   Sometimes in some liberal courts in America.  So it’s just an absolute travesty that you had to endure and suffer through this.  Now tell us about your book.  It looks like when you were in prison, you were incarcerated, you wrote 38 books.  That is a that is an unbelievable amount, and obviously you used a pen name Elijah Green, so that maybe people weren’t going to get wind of who you were and what you were doing, but you wrote a book called “The Kennel”, and “The Kennel” is known as the exposing the prison industrial complex from inside.  What did you learn specifically that you didn’t know beforehand about the prison systems that you know that you that shocked you the most.
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Kent Hovind

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 So while I was in prison they moved me 32 times which I found out they typically called “diesel therapy”; some way to shut this guy up, but I, I, God used it for good.   I was moved all over the place.  One of the things I did while I was being moved was he some research on our prison system works.  What is this all about?  How could this possibly happen in America?  I discovered that many judges and prosecutors own stock in the prison system.  The more people they lock up and the longer they lock them up the more money they get on their secondary investment.  For example, last prison I was at in my 32 moves was in Yazoo City, Mississippi at the federal prison camp there.   I discovered that the Yazoo prison complex is huge probably a thousand acres or more.   The land is owned by Haley Barbour, the right wing conservative Haley Barbour, governor of Mississippi.  He leases the land that the federal government; got a 99-year lease on that land.  His son Haley Barbour, Jr. is the chief federal judge in Jackson Mississippi.   I think to anybody with one eye and half a brain it would look like that would be considered double dipping because if they give you a slightly longer sentence or leaned toward finding you guilty rather than innocent they’re going to profit on their secondary investment by making sure that lease payment is done by the prison being full.
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I was shocked how many people own stock in the prison system.   
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US attorney in my case went down and seized the ministry bank account, seized all of the property.  Two weeks later he flew to Detroit to have sex with a five year old, got off the airplane with Vaseline and a doll.  They arrested him in Detroit and he hung himself in prison.   
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Josh Bernstein

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This is the prosecutor.
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Kent Hovind

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You can Google John David Roy Anderson, October 5th, 200?. That’s the guy that seized everything from our church ministry.  
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So as I did research on this I was reading a book called Animal Farm by George Orwell famous.  Look he talks about the pigs take over the farm and pick out the farmer and it’s obviously a satire against communism.
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OK, so then influenced me to write “The Kennel”; short 90 some page book said hey let’s go dog kennel out in the middle of the woods and you find out that the congressmen and Senators own stock in the kennel.  So they pass all kinds of laws to be sure more dogs get locked up for barking after midnight or possessing their to toy or things like that.  It’s a satire on our kids on our prison system.   I did it under a different name Elijah Green.  I was locked up at the time and at that particular camp the uniform were green and so Elijah was a preacher in the Bible that the king hated for no good reason. 
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Yeah you can get it for seven or eight bucks from our ministry “drdino.com”.  This is not a Bible related topic even though this is.
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I was shocked and embarrassed to find out after being a Christian for nearly 50 years God’s Word the Bible never calls for incarceration under God’s law.  You either get a fine or a beating or executed.  I mean if somebody rapes your daughter and they get locked up for 20 years she’s gotta pay their groceries now more than a 20-year.  As if there’s not enough damage done.  Down to the Bible for certain crimes in the Bible, you simply executor somebody raised your daughter.   She needs to walk in get executor then go spit on his grave every day for a few.  Wait sometimes you can heal up emotionally.  But today they don’t make that.  If someone steal here far under under the Bible turn.  You can steal something you pay back four times.
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Josh Bernstein

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I’ve got one one last question for you now that you’re out of prison.  If there was one thing when you look back at the entire thing that happened to you with you know obviously the harassment the trying to silence you for having a different religious and ideological opinion.  
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If you could do anything different, what would that one thing be?
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Kent Hovind

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I most certainly would have testified at trial.
I should have given my testimony; demanded it.
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A few months of getting out of prison, they tried to charge me again for 20 more years for mail fraud for mailing a letter to the courthouse.   
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I just missed it by one juror voting not guilty because he understood jury nullification.
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Everybody needs to study that.  Anyway, I would certainly have testified.
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Josh Bernstein

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Wow!  Well this is it’s a it’s a harrowing story.  Thank God that you’re out to to tell your story. I hope that other people can learn from your story.
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Hey, Josh Bernstein here, I want to personally thank you for watching and sharing my videos.
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Please don’t forget that there are videos right now streaming 24/7 on Amazon television and also head on over to patreon.com/JoshBernstein where you’ll find an uncensored unfiltered version of the Josh Bernstein show see you then.

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Update September 29, 2018

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Notice to Josh Bernstein via His Twitter Page

https://twitter.com/JBTVShow/status/1040729469332414465

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Update May 23, 2020

This issue has come up for discussion recently and Kent’s appearance on the Josh Bernstein show provides an excellent illustration of how Kent has worked his misrepresentation into his broader false legal narrative.

https://youtu.be/daVHQI9DuFM?t=400

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