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Link to The CJ On-Line Article

http://www.cjonline.com/news/20180829/schwabs-file-federal-lawsuit-alleging-civil-rights-violations

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Link to Schwab Lawsuit – Dead on Arrival Article

http://kehvrlb.com/the-schwab-lawsuit-dead-on-arrival-08272018

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CJ On-Line Comments-Debate

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Comment #1 From Robert Baty

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The Schwab lawsuit based on the False Schwab Narrative failed to pass its initial tests and the Court has already issued an ORDER advising them that they should consider starting over; or at least cure the COMPLAINT’s failures and think about filing in Kansas instead of Colorado. 
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There has also been an on-line feud started because the Schwabs have dared to include Amelia’s family members as defendants. 
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Shame on Raymond and Amelia for continuing their frivolous pursuits. 
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– Robert Baty 
– Long-time Schwab adversary (i.e., Raymond & Amelia really don’t like me) 

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Comment #2 From Bill McKean

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I am not sure why the Schwabs sued Secretary of State Kobach, but they definitely have a plausible case against DCF subcontractors and county prosecutors for arbitrarily conspiring to violating the federal civil rights of their children. Everything in life is political. I’m sure that the Raymond and Amelia Schwab (as well as the federal appellate judges in the 10th circuit) fully understand the corruption and sleaze in the elitist inbred Kansas federal judiciary including Judges Katherine Vratil, Eric Melgren, Carlos Murguia and newly minted Holly Teeter (Murguia former clerk during the Bret Landrith lawsuit). The Schwabs may not win in federal court in either Colorado or Kansas, but they will leave a paper trail a mile for future parents sucked into the Kansas corrupt cps system. Disbarred former Topeka attorney Bret Landrith made many coherent arguments and presented evidence of sworn affidavits by myself and Valerie Rosproy abut similar allegations of criminal racketeering by SRS and the Kansas Supreme Court in Bret Landrith’s lawsuit that was dismissed by Murguia after being reviewed by his clerk Holly Teeter. . Who knows, maybe the bread crumbs generated by the Schwab lawsuit will lead to more sealed federal indictments in Kansas. Too bad the publisher, editors and reporters at the Topeka Capital Journal are apologists for the misogynistic criminal racketeering in Kansas juvenile courts.

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Comment #3 From Robert Baty

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Bill McKean, et al 
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If there’s a case to be made for corruption and/or simple failures in administration regarding the relevant agencies/employees in Kansas, the Schwab case is not one you want to put up as an example or your champion for such a cause; though the Schwabs and their people are out to make Raymond and Amelia into their poster couple against the State and even Amelia’s family who has helped the Schwabs in taking care of their children for several years. 
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Fundamentally, I have had an outstanding challenge to the Schwabs or their champion which has yet to be met and, with this new effort, they need to reminded that I am waiting for them or their champion to face me and deal with the fundamental issues regarding their custody case, which stands independent of any other Kansas case or any alleged corruption. 
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PROPOSITION FOR DISCUSSION 
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The State of Kansas was factually and legally 
justified in taking custody of the Schwab children 
and retaining custody. 
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– Robert Baty: Affirm 

– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Amelia Schwab: Deny 

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Comment #4 From Shara Michelle

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Bill McKean, perfectly stated and perhaps they will win.. the children have rightfully been returned home, certainly a victory for this good family and may justice be a triumph here too.

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Comment #5 From Robert Baty

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Shara Michelle, I know you! 
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The Schwabs were teetering on the verge of having their parental rights terminated when I started reporting on the story and, I propose, it was my reporting and the work of my people that finally moved Amelia to get serious about doing something productive to change the course of the case and just maybe get some of her kids returned (one refused to go home with her and aged out of the system and stayed in Kansas). 
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The State of Kansas was legally and factually justified in taking custody of the Schwab children and in maintaining custody (but note, the kids were given to Amelia’s family to raise for her pending a change in custody). 
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As for Raymond’s latest publicity, fund-raising stunt; the lawsuit against Amelia’s family and others, that COMPLAINT arrived dead according to the Court and will go nowhere unless Raymond starts over and figures out how to cure its defects. 

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Comment #6 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty, 

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You know me?

I have never met you or been interviewed by you.

Nor did I interview you.

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I did not give you permission to use copyrighted photos in your fabricated, inaccurate article about me, as you do to others on high profile cases.

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The Schwab family suffered and worked very hard to correct a wrong so why do you superciliously claim credit? What is your “gain” in using the internet to assassinate the characters of good people “knowing” the harm it is causing and then gasconating yourself a “famous reporter”.

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Good reporters perform fact finding, are accurate and “get” the interviews. What interviews did you get?

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If you cared about the children in these cases, you would not forever harm their parent’s names on the far- reaching internet. Why don’t you care about the children? Your lack of empathy is concerning and untenable. 

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Comment #7 From Robert Baty

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Shara, Shara, Shara, you do falsely accuse me and deny that we do very much know each other; we have a history!
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http://kehvrlb.com/shara-michelle-freedom-public-press

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The Schwabs worked very hard for a long, long time to make sure that their kids were not returned to them. They seemed to like the idea that Amelia’s family was taking care of them while they, Raymond and Amelia, joined forces with other anti-government whiners to try to make a name for themselves…………..until I and my people started reporting the truth of the matter in conjunction with the Baby Holm story (the Holms and Schwabs being at one time very close). 
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If you, Shara, were concerned about the children, you wouldn’t be backing people like Raymond and Lee. 

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Comment #8 From Robert Baty

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Some may recall that over the course of time Raymond and his people became increasingly belligerent towards anyone involved in his case and added security often accompanied his appearances in court or with government officials. Raymond has even been known to threaten me. 
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Such antics are a specific technique used by people like Raymond and the threats are real. 
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Shara’s own boyfriend has made himself famous for promoting such threats. 
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See: 
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http://kehvrlb.com/keith-lentin-will-he-be-held-accountable 

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UPDATES

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Comment #9 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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My fiancee Keith, has no criminal history and has never harmed or threatened anyone.

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He is also a public figure in music and you are intending to cause his good name harm due to his connection to me.

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He made one heated statement, in his British style, the same as many did on the day Lee Kenworthy and his children were seized by rifles and taser from their own home, against their rights, and he deleted it soon after.

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Keith did not name any person.

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Have you seen the comments on the live footage from that day?

MANY people were very upset and saying the same and much worse that day.

Keith has NEVER threatened you.

You are stalking me and my family members including Keith.

YOU are fearsome.

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Comment #10 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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Have you set a date yet? 
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The history as to how your boyfriend’s comment came to be removed from your FaceBook page is not documented and your claim is not consistent with what I recall about all of that. In any case, tampering with the evidence regarding his threat does not resolve his problems in having made that statement. Your kind of people continue to promote your boyfriend’s recommendations. 
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One recent example, just one: 
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https://www.local10.com/news/crime/foster-mother-shot-2-children-taken-from-home-in-southwest-miami-dade
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In any case, your boyfriend has yet to publicly, properly, deal with it, in my opinion. 
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I see you are also continuing to make your false accusations against me, Shara. 

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Update September 4, 2018

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Comment #11 From Robert Baty

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How timely. In a live broadcast on FaceBook today, Raymond Schwab again threatens me and his sister-in-law, Amanda Allison. 
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Link: 
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https://www.facebook.com/freetheschwabchildren/videos/216823469191878/
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Threat during the last minute of that video:: 
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“Don’t think I won’t come for you 
Baty, and Allison.” 
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– Raymond Schwab 
– September 3, 2018 

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Comment #12 From Robert Baty

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Link to image of Raymond Schwab’s threat against me: 
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmN-5ZjUUAA3fg7.jpg:large

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Comment #13 From Shara Michelle

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ROBERT BATY: 

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You know Mr Schwab is meaning “legally”, this video is about “litigation”. Keith also stated going after you “by law” and you erroneously accused him of threatening harm. MANY OF YOUR VICTIMS have stated the same. 

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WHY are you incessantly harassing, stalking, and HARMING Raymond Schwab, his family, and HIS MINOR CHILDREN with INTENT?

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Is it because he is a famous warrior and you so desperately want to be a famous reporter?

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Stop using him for your grandiosity.

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I would like to interview you.

I would like to learn more about the inner minds of serial killers and serial stalkers.

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You are lacking a connate sense of right and wrong. Your use of high profile stories and public figures to legitimize yourself is causing MANY harm.

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Maybe your exposure will HELP you and YOUR VICTIMS.

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DId you pick up the books I suggested for your problem? 

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Comment #14 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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You continue to falsely accuse those who disagree with you, like me. 
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You really need to get over yourself and that bad habit. 
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A threat is a threat and in the form used by Raymond, you, your boyfriend, and others in your movement, it is reasonably construed to not be limited to litigation; Raymond has even, in days gone by, made his “more than legal” threats against me clear. There’s a good reason, as I previously noted, why the Schwab legal proceedings had increased security. 

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Update September 4, 2018

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Comment #15 From Shara Michelle

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ROBERT BATY: 

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This is NOT a “disagreement”.

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YOU ARE typing and publishing on the world-wide internet, (including dominating search engines) inaccurate, damaging fabrication about your victims (including me), knowing they are public figures, to do more than fit your narrative.

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YOU ARE INTENDING HARM and SHAME, EMBARRASSMENT and DAMAGE to your VICTIMS (including me) and then stalking their every cyber move.

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You are publishing very personal information on your victims exposing them to harm. .

I have not seen ANY evidence of any one including Raymond and Keith threatening you with “a threat of physical violence”. as you stated about Keith to the PUBLIC.

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Post it here, it does not exist.

You cannot “construe” a “legal threat” as a threat of physical violence.

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PS: I don’t have ANY bad habits, I am indeed squeaky clean. Again, if you are up for educating your spirit, the book titles that may help you with your problem are “A Force For Good” and “Little Book Of Inner Peace”. Dalai Lama

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Comment #16 From Shara Michelle

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ROBERT BATY: 

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You are doing all of this to many VICTIMS PUBLICLY.

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This is liable for damages.

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Could be a legal threat, unmistakably NOT a threat of physical harm.

Have you come to expect everyone to remain you victim?

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Comment #17 From Robert Baty

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Shara Michelle, 
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You make a great advocate for Raymond Schwab who dares not face me himself; cowardly sort that he is. He and your boyfriend seem to have that in common; hide behind the little woman. 
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I note that Amanda Allison was already being attacked legally by Raymond Schwab, which adds to the interpretation of his threat as meaning something more than simple legal action, and his people know how to interpret that consistent with what your boyfriend, Keith Lentin, recommended. 
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I also note what another observed as to Raymond’s consistency: 
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1. Raymond denies the actions which justified the State taking custody of the children. 
2. Raymond blames everyone else. 
3. Raymond threatens people. 
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I’m still waiting, Shara, for Raymond or his champion to face me and discuss my fundamental claim that the State of Kansas was legally and factually justified in taking custody of Amelia’s children. 

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Update September 4, 2018

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Comment #18 From Robert Baty

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The CJ On-Line operation needs to get busy, in my opinion, and commit some serious journalistic resources to developing this related story: Raymond Schwab is already posturing for a job in Jennifer Winn’s office if she gets elected. 
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http://kehvrlb.com/jennifer-winn-the-baker-baby

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Comment #19 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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Why would you do this to a grieving family??

Today is the funeral.

And you know this..

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Comment #20 From Robert Baty

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For reasons to complex to get in to here at this time, the article has been modified slightly and given a new link as shown below: 
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http://kehvrlb.com/jennifer-winn-the-baby

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Comment #21 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

Tin man has a heart?

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Update September 5, 2018

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Comment #22 From Robert Baty

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“Grieving” family Shara! 

I get it. The grieving “father” moves on after the funeral and goes fishing with his new girlfriend and brags about it. 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10215302644257087&set=a.2432089879344&type=3&theater

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Update September 5, 2018

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Comment #23 From Raymond Schwab

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Robert Baty is a crazy old man who tries to make a reputation for himself by attacking high visibility cases. He hides behind false profiles, attacks grieving parents and is a coward. 

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Here is my challenge.

I said I will Come after you in court.

Email me your address Baty so I can serve you some paperwork. 

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That’s the forum I will Debate you in.

Let me know when you do it.

Otherwise let people see you are a liar and a coward.

That’s all the response you get from my time.. 

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Here is The real Story.

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Comment #24 From Raymond Schwab

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Follow all the links 

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http://medicalkidnap.com/2018/05/11/mothers-day-reunion-military-dad-and-mom-reunited-with-children-3-years-after-kansas-took-them-over-medical-cannabis/

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Comment #25 From Robert Baty

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Notice that Raymond Schwab does what he does and runs from the opportunity to actually face me in order to discuss the following proposition: 

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Proposition for Discussion 

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The State of Kansas was legally and factually 
justified in taking custody of the Schwab 
children. 

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– Robert Baty: Affirm 
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– Raymond Schwab: Deny 

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Comment #26 From Robert Baty

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Really Raymond; you linked to a Medical Kidnap article!

For normal folks interested in the truth of such things, the following link will provide more reliable information: 

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https://www.wibw.com/content/news/375333541.html

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Headline: “Court says neglect and meth use led to taking Schwab’s kids, not marijuana” 

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Update September 5, 2018

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Comment #27 From Raymond Schwab

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And just to show you the caliber of journalist Terri Lapoint is of medical kidnap…she was given an award for her journalism by Michelle Malkin And had work published by politichicks 
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We are winning the battle people. Even bad press is good 
Press it keeps the issue on the front page!!! 
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https://youtu.be/x87Cr18lh1k

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Comment #28 From Robert Baty

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Bwahahahahahaha, Raymond! 
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That might have gotten Terri some attention, but it certainly was a detraction from any standing Michelle Malkin had and it seems she has been falling out of favor as a celebrity/activist or whatever she is supposed to be. Same with the PolitiChicks outfit. 
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As for me, if you want to match references, I was again featured in Forbes today, their on-line version, and I got a private message from Peter J. Reilly thanking me for my work on his coverage. 
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Here’s the link: 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2018/09/05/how-tax-resistance-can-hurt-your-marriages-the-kent-hovind-saga/#4c549012b927
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You are familiar with Kent Hovind, Raymond. He’s the reason I have even given you any consideration. I hear you had some secret correspondence with Kent about me. I don’t suppose we’ll ever be able to document the substance of your secret dealings with Hovind. 
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I again note that Raymond is evading facing me on the substantive matter relevant to his case: 
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Proposition for Discussion 
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The State of Kansas was legally and factually 
justified in taking custody of the Schwab children. 

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– Robert Baty: Affirm 
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– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
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Terri LaPoint nor Michelle Malkin will dare to try and rebut my position on that. Raymond has already repeatedly run off from it. 
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I win by default, but more than that, my opposition defaults because they know my position is true and they “can’t stand the truth”..

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Update September 7, 2018

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Comment #29 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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You took this entire conversation thread and placed it into an article but you left out only my 3rd comment that begins with:

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“stalking me does not give us a history”.

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Why did you print every comment in this thread but not my referenced comment?

Do you edit conversations and omit important parts?

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Comment #30 From Robert Baty

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Shara, Shara, Shara 
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You know that I’m only human and, surprising that it is, I do make mistakes once in awhile. 
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I’ll check out your claim and see if I can make any necessary corrections. 
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Thanks for checking my work.

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I know you and yours like to “stalk” me! 

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Comment #31 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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I tried and could not find your cryptic reference beginning with ““stalking me does not give us a history”. 
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My proofreading and editing skills are nothing to brag about. 
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I have a suggestion. 
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Just post in a new, stand-alone comment here what you think I left out, in its entirety, and I will try to make sure it gets posted in my coverage. 
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OK?

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Comment #32 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 

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I looked again and could not find your alleged comment beginning with “stalking me does not give us a history” that I allegedly left out of my coverage of this discussion at: 

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http://kehvrlb.com/schwab-v-baty-the-cj-on-line-debate

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Shara, anyone, help me out here. 

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If I have left something out of my coverage that should be there, I will be glad to include it, but for now I just can’t find it.

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Comment #33 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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Since you are a king of fabrication, I don’t believe that you can’t find my comment.

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I don’t think you want to display the truth.

Simple direction.

Scroll down to the START of THIS thread to YOUR FIRST comment. then scroll UP to MY FIRST comment, then scroll UP to MY SECOND comment, then scroll up to MY THIRD comment.

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Thats the one!!

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MY THIRD comment on THIS thread, YOU omitted from this discussion and your article.

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PS you are writing about me and calling me a stalker for reading articles about me. sounds a little twisted Bat man~ 

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Comment #34 From Robert Baty

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Cute, Shara, really cute. 
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I told you I didn’t count very well or edit very well or proofread very well, and I still come up short of finding your highly touted “stalking me does not give us a history” message that you claim to be so concerned about but can”t repeat for me here. 
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So, I went back for the umpteenth time and tried again, and this is what I came up with: 
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Shara’s #1 message begins: “Bill McKean…” 
Shara’s #2 message begins: “Robert Baty: You know me?….” 
Shara’s #3 message begins: “Robert Baty: My fiancee Keith…” 
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I guess, Shara, you were just wanting some attention and weren’t really so concerned about your trivial comments being left out of my coverage. 
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I’m still game, though, you can help me find your alleged comment or repeat it; just cut and paste if it really is somewhere in this thread. 
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Easy peasy! 

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Comment #35 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty, 

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You are just trying to have fun with me because the comment is clearly there, still my third comment on this thread. I did copy and paste here, to help you find your way, per your instructions: 
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Shara Michelle 
updated 5 days ago 

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Robert Baty: 
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Stalking me does not give “us” a “history”. Your article is not about me. It is not accurate and you “intended” to cause damage to my good name publicly. You took identity parts from another person that is not me. You have stolen my copyrighted photos without my permission stating you had permission. You have incorrect date and photo of my darling deceased mother and placed her beauty into your ugly article with a photo of some one else that is not her. 

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I stand behind my reporting on the Lee Kenworthy case and will continue.
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PS: My 5 Billboard awards are certificates for songwriting from my first release with my record company in Nashville. Print unerring fact if you want to be the “famous reporter” you state you are. Who have you interviewed in your articles? What you say about me is fabricated so I don’t believe a word you say about Raymond or Lee. Place the children first when you type. Children love their family and they grow up and read the internet..

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Comment #36 From Robert Baty

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Maybe, Shara, one of the other readers here will vouch for your claim. 
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So far, nobody else has come forward to vouch for your claim. 
Curious indeed it is. 
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However, I see it now and will most assuredly get it posted in my coverage. 
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I notice that your comments are, typically, filled with false claims. 
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I am glad you brought up your alleged Billboard Awards. I know people who have been searching for documentation that you received “5 Billboard Awards” and couldn’t find any such documentation. 
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Shara, can you provide on-line references that will document your “5 Billboard Awards”? 
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If so, please do. 

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Comment #37 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty 

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You also omitted the following comment from your article. This was my 5th comment in order: 

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Shara Michelle 
updated 4 days ago 

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Robert Baty: Thousands of people following the Lee Kenworthy story that day were outraged. There is lots of evidence of that in the thousands of comments on my coverage.

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Most of them were caught up in the moment of emotions as they watched the seizure of an entire family from the “safety” of their own home by drawn rifles and tasers on a holiday.

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That holiday was for those that sacrificed for our FREEDOM.

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Our constitution protects our freedom and property, our rights.

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Keith did not recommend anything and he removed his comment the day after when the heat of that moment cooled down.

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It is only YOU posting it with intent and with lies all over the internet.

Try a cup of soothing tea for your problem.

Pick up a nourishing book like “A Force For Good” or Dalai Lama’s ” Little Book Of Inner Peace”.

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Comment #38 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 

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I see there are still none coming to your defense and trying to corroborate your claims about those earlier posts I allegedly omitted from my coverage, and your latest post gives no references that would document your whatever your got from Billboard. 

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I will propose, however, that you have been cleverly misleading the public by claiming what you got from Billboard, if anything, was a “Billboard Award”. 

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Shame on you. 

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As to what you think I failed to report about your postings, I think you need to talk to CJ On-Line about why I can’t see them if they are there. If you want to maintain your accusation against me, maybe you should progress to providing a screenshot of the alleged omissions, in the context of the post before and after the one you think I saw and deliberately omitted. 

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Comment #39 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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I have not misled the public.

YOU have misled the public.

ALL of your victims would agree.

Shall we ask them? 

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BILLBOARD “awarded” me 5 certificates for my songwriting.

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That is what I was referring to. I also received document/letter from BILLBOARD encouraging me to keep writing and that they felt a hit song was in my future.

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I will work on that~

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There is no option to upload a screen shot/photo of the comments here. Is there a way?

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Comment #40 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 

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We could exchange screenshots via Messenger if you would UNblock me from your FaceBook account. 

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As for the Billboard issue, you have implicitly admitted to misleading the public by admitting that what you may have gotten was a “certificate” and not a “Billboard Award” as you kept claiming. 

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I don’t have victims, by the way. 

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I report on important stories of public interest. 

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My subjects, typically, don’t like that. 
It is what it is.

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Comment #41 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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Shall we ask any of those you have covered if they feel victimized by you? And yes, it is YOU who is misleading the public. 
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Until I was attacked for covering the Lee Kenworthy story, I had not shared with the public the 5 certificates I was awarded from Billboard or my song that had radio play. It was called an “award” by Billboard. I only referenced what was awarded once because the “attackers” did not believe I was a singer/songwriter. but stay tuned, music is on the way~O 
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Since I keep getting hacked I don’t use messenger to open anything. I would instead post what you are asking on your wall. 
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Your reporting of stories of public interest and including vitally private personal information, and family, that places the person at risk are two different things. And then doing so with the intent to “shame” someone is liable. 
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Would it be ok if I publish your addresses and extend it to your family members and your vitally personal info all over the internet? Is that cool with you? You also got my personal information mixed into someone else. 
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If your were a good writer, you would not have a need to publish vitally personal information in your story. Not very creative for a reporter/writer~ I guess it’s all you had. Not if you were a “good writer”. 

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Comment #42 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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I suppose if you UNblocked me you would be able to post those comment screenshots to my personal page. 
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You are welcome to ask any of my subjects what they think about my coverage, and report and document their responses. 
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I’m available if anyone should have anything of substance to contest regarding my coverage. I don’t think, based on their histories, that they are prepared to face me now when they have refused for so long, but give it a try. 
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I notice you continued whining about what I do without daring to offer to take up anything specific that might be of mutual interest. 
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As far as what is relevant here, I notice again that neither you nor Raymond or Raymond’s champion has offered to take up the following discussion: 
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Proposition for Discussion 
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The State of Kansas was legally and factually 
justified in taking custody of the Schwab children. 
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– Robert Baty: Affirm 
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– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Schwab Surrogate (to be named): Deny 

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Comment #43 From Shara Michelle

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“will you walk into my parlour said the spider to the fly”~

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Comment #44 From Robert Baty

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Shara,

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It’s your issue, and I’ve called you on it.

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You have a pretty poor record in that you typically fail to put up after you have spoken up.

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You admitted, implicitly, misrepresenting what, if anything, you got from Billboard and still haven’t posted any on-line documentation as to what it was.

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As for your screenshots of the alleged omitted posts, in context of other messages, you could easily post those to your own “parlour”.

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Just let me know and I’ll find someone to copy them for me and, if necessary, I can let them post my screenshots if different from yours.

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Easy peasy, but I know you always seem to take the evasive, deceptive course in such matters.

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Update September 8, 2017

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Comment #45 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 
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I am in my cottage and do not have my Billboard certificates here. They may be in NYC or storage in other house. I won’t be in either for a couple weeks as I am getting on road so it will have to wait. It also will be time consuming to “find” them in boxes.

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But they are there~ How is this evasive and deceptive?

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I will get to the screen shots tomorrow “if” I get the chance before getting on the road~

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Comment #46 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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You know that “that” is not what I was talking about as to being “deceptive” and “evasive”. 
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You boasted of your “5 Billboard Awards” long ago and people repeatedly asked you about them after being unable to independently verify you had received any such things. You had plenty of time to explain what you were talking about, and did not, and now it appears what you claimed was simply a “deception” and your refusal to explain or substantiate an “evasion”. 
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Now you admit that “Billboard Awards” are not what you received. 
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It will be interesting, if you come through with the screenshots to maybe resolve the matter of the alleged missing posts. 
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Meanwhile, I am still waiting for Raymond or his champion to come out to me and set up the discussion of the following: 
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Proposition for DIscussion 
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The State of Kansas had legal and factual justification 
for taking custody of the Schwab children. 

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– Robert Baty: Affirm 

– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Schwab surrogate (to be named): Deny 

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Comment #47 From Robert Baty

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Shara,

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For what it’s worth, I have now taken my own screenshots and presented the controversy to my Hovind group audience in the thread at:

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1065281216974340/

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Since you have me blocked, I don’t know if you can see that or not, but it’s there.

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If you wish to engage the matter there and post your screenshots there, feel free to join the group and post your reply.

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Comment #48 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty 
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Step into the Lion’s den?

No thank you.

I can’t see the Lion’s den.

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But I do have your email address and home address and personal info.

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Wouldn’t and email be the best way?

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I’m a writer/independent reporter. You and your family can be my first story on my upcoming website. Cool huh? I will check out your work and follow same formula for your story.

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Comment #49 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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So, you have nothing to support your accusation against me regarding my alleged omission of your 2 referenced posts. 
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Feel free to email me your screenshots and I will post them and consider them. 
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For now, I am concluding that your accusation is simply and deliberately false regarding those alleged omitted posts, but I will be interested to find out if you have the screenshots supporting your claim and what they might say about the whole matter.

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Comment #50 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty,

Bat Man,

Tin man,

whatever your name is:


I don’t have screen shots of the 2 comments you omitted from our conversation.

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Instead I took photos of them with my cell phone.

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Again, you are not being accurate in your reporting.

.

I do not make deliberate false statements as you accuse me of publicly.

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May I ask, what is your wife’s name?

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There will be more questions for your story..stay tuned~

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Please confirm your email address here~ after all, there is nothing to keep from the public right?

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You may become the biggest story on the internet.

Wouldn’t that be fantastic?

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Comment #51 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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For now, you got nothing, as far as this conversation about your accusations against me regarding my alleged failure to post your comments. 
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Deal with that as you see fit. 
.
Like with your misrepresentation and evasions regarding your alleged “5 Billboard Awards”, your accusations against me for failing to post your alleged comments could have been resolved a long time ago, but you would not, have not and have indicated you are not going to. 
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Time will tell.

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Comment #52 From Robert Baty

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That Raymond Schwab supports violence and the threat of violence as is common to his anti-government, anti-child welfare movement can be seen in one of his latest postings to his FaceBook page which I have commented on at the following link: 
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1065584646943997/
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If you survey other pages which share Raymond’s anti-government, anti-child welfare positions, you will find even more overt support for the violence against public servants whenever such cases as is mentioned comes to their attention. 
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There is a reason why there is increased security around these people and Raymond Schwab is a good example; despite the lame attempts by Raymond Schwab and Shara Michelle to claim otherwise. 

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Raymond claims his children were stolen. 
Raymond claims people that have their children stolen are going to fight back with physical violence. 
Raymond, by his own words, is apt to resort to violence as have others of his sort. 

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https://www.facebook.com/schwabstrong/posts/696177230755254

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Comment #53 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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You seem to be in a Raymond frenzy again..

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Can we talk about your story now?

This is an interview.

What is your wife’s name?

There is nothing to hide, is there?

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Comment #54 From Robert Baty

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This page is intended to address Raymond’s issues and it appears those are just some things you are not up for, Shara. 
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I’m still waiting for you to admit you lied about me failing to report your messages or justify your accusation against me. 
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As for Raymond, my offer still stands for Raymond or his Champion to face me in a discussion of the following: 
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Proposition for Discussion: 
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The State of Kansas was legally and factually 
justified in taking custody of the Schwab children. 
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– Robert Baty: Affirm 
– 
– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Schwab surrogate (to be named): Deny 

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Comment #55 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty:

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My coverage was about the Lee Kenworthy story and you made it about me.

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Was that a blunder Bat Man?

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Raymond is not a violent man stop fabricating things~

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ps I am not his advocate as you reported.

So many blunders..

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Comment #56 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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You are not being honest again, Shara, but “we” have gotten used to that. 
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Let me know if you come up with something substantive that you think we might have a mutual interest in discussing. 
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Oh wait, no! You first have to admit to lying about your accusations against me about failing to report your comments or provide justification for your accusations. 
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Comment #57 From Robert Baty

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“Raymond is not a violent man. 
I am not his advocate.” 
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– Shara Michelle 
– September 8, 2018 
– About 10:00 PM MT 
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! 

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– Robert Baty 
– September 8, 2018 
– About 10:25 PM MT

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Update September 9, 2018

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Comment #58 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

I am on the road now.

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We will get back to my interview of you when I return from DC.

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I intend to make your story national.

Stay Tuned~

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PS again, do not deflect.

Confirm your email address and I will send my evidence regarding your omitted comments~

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Comment #59 From Robert Baty

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Oh Shara, you are always claiming you are going to take some story “national” and telling people to “stay tuned”. Where is any evidence that you have ever published (i.e., in writing) any news story in any legitimate news venue? 
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You don’t need me to do anything in order for you to present your evidence for those alleged comments I allegedly omitted from my coverage of this exchange. 
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You can put up your evidence or not. 
I’ve made my case. 
What you do is up to you. 
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You also don’t need an interview with me to do a story on me, but if you want to have a one-on-one discussion, we can negotiate the details appropriate to producing such a thing. Continuing to block me on FaceBook is a sign of your bad faith regarding such things. I might have some questions for you as well in order to supplement my coverage of YOU as the ace reporter for something called Freedom Public Press. 

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Comment #60 From Robert Baty

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Some may recall that Shara has been trying to cover for her boyfriend Keith Lentin who posted a threatening message on FaceBook advising folks to publish personal information on civil servants and recommending that “American Street Justice” take its course. 
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I have proposed that such is common to Raymond Schwab’s movement and such as Shara Michelle has been trying to advocate for. 
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Here’s an on-line link to a motion filed by the State in response to Raymond Schwab and his people actually doing what Keith Lentin was recommending; though they had been recommending and doing it long before Keith Lentin began promoting the technique: 
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https://www.scribd.com/document/350924989/Motion-to-Prohibit-Further-Violations-of-Court-Rules-5-31-2017#from_embed

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As I keep saying, without fear of successful rebuttal, people like Raymond Schwab are justifiably to be considered security risks.

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Comment #61 From Robert Baty

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My reference in my preceding post made refere.nce to Laura Price whom Raymond and his people “went after” publicly. In a followup from Raymond the following was posted: 
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https://www.facebook.com/freetheschwabchildren/posts/1209916722469402
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“According to DCF sources close to the Schwab case 
St Francis Supervisor Laura Price…has been removed 
from case management on the case and now has her 
own 24/7 contingent of security…” 
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– Free The Schwab Children 
– June 17, 2017 
– 7:11 PM 
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Some might also recall that Laura Price is just one of the many people he is attempting to sue in his recent frivolous federal filing. 
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Update September 10, 2018

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Shara Michelle did finally provide some evidence that she made it to Washington, D.C. to help Raymond Schwab’s #1 promoter, Jennifer Winn, advocate for their anti-government, anti-child welfare hobby.

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https://www.facebook.com/sharamichelle.art/videos/2692510414107772/

Jennifer Winn & Shara Michelle – 2 Advocates

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Comment #62 From Robert Baty

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While I wait to see if Shara Cronkite is going to further engage in this discussion, it is now being reported that one of Raymond Schwab’s fellows whose case was highly touted by Raymond and his people has returned to Alabama for reasons not yet made clear, except that he did broadcast a call to the FBI today which, again, featured his sovereign citizen silliness and other “odd beliefs”. 
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Here’s a link to my report on those developments. 
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http://kehvrlb.com/the-holms-return-to-alabama
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Mr. Holm and his people have a 2 year history of challenging the State and making various and sundry threats which, in part, led to having increased security at proceedings and, ultimately, resulting in an order of protection being issued against him and his wife. 

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Update September 11, 2018

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Comment #63 From Robert Baty

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The Court has now ORDERED the Schwab case be transferred to Kansas.

Schwab Transfer ORDER 09112018

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Update September 14, 2018

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Comment #64 From Shara Michelle

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I see you have been busy weaving more fabrication.

.

Let me correct you on a couple things.

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I did not say I received a “music award” from Billboard. I said ” I was awarded 5 certificates from Billboard for songwriting”.

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They are called awards by Billboard (not the same as a music award) A lot of what you reported about me is inaccurate.

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I understand you want me to unblock you.

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You must be privy to the news that things are going to get busy for Freedom Public Press and my music in the next weeks/ months.

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I will make a deal with you, You remove your incorrect box of my identity/age and I will send you screenshot of the correct one and I will unblock you only if you remove it.

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Also, I will search for my Billboard awarded certificates for songwriting and or letter from Billboard in the next few weeks since you continue to report fabrication here too.

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I won’t negotiate this again.

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There are many other fabrications but we will look at those in the future.

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I would like to interview you in the future~ PS: stop referring to me as an “advocate” or advocate for Raymond Schwab and “anti-government”.

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The only time I gave help/assistance similar as an advocate was for Misty.

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I purchased her a brand new stainless steel refrigerator and stove and I gave her what I could in assistance to help her situation and connected her to those that could further help her. I did not ask for a thing in return.

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I am an independent reporter on cases about real “families” and their rights in America. This does not make me “anti-government”. 

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Comment #65 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 

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I don’t think you are capable of negotiating in good faith with me about any substantive matters of mutual interest. 

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You again, typically, fired off your shotgun of claims without daring to provide anything specific as to what you are talking about and what might improve upon my reports about such things. 

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For now, I see you are just way behind on 2 fundamental issues and I am willing to conclude our conversation on the basis that you have nothing to offer to advance the discussions thereof. 

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Issue #1 – The Schwab Proposition 

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The State of Kansas was legally and factually justified 
in taking custody of the Schwab children. 

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– Robert Baty: Affirm 
– 
– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Surrogate (to be named): Deny 

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Issue #2 – The Shara Michelle Comments 

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Robert Baty failed to report the 3rd and 5th messages 
that Shara Michelle posted in the comments section 
of the CJ On-Line article about the latest Schwab 
lawsuit. 

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– Shara Michelle: Affirm 
– 
– Robert Baty: Deny 

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Comment #66 From Robert Baty

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Shara Michelle posing as an advocate advocating with other advocates! 
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See: 
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnGu8feV4AA6LUf.jpg:large

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Update September 15, 2018

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Comment #67 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty, 

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I was there to cover the events and I participated briefly for photos holding a sign for 5 minutes. I just posted the photos of my coverage of day 1 in DC. I was not at this event as an advocate. But I was supporting Jennifer Winn. She is a diamond~

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I also have the photo of your “missing” comments from this thread.

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PS: The state of Kansas was NOT justified in “kidnapping” the Schwab children.

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And you are NOT an accurate reporter.

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Make sure you “affirm”.

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Comment #68 From Robert Baty

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Shara Michelle, 
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Let me know when and where you post your evidence that contradicts what I have posted regarding your alleged comments that I allegedly failed to report. 
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As for the fundamental issue in the Schwab case, you seem to agree with Raymond but have yet to indicate any willingness to actually engage me in that discussion, get Raymond to engage me, or get Raymond’s champion to engage me. My challenge remains outstanding: 
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Issue #1 – The Schwab Proposition 
.
The State of Kansas was legally and factually justified 
in taking custody of the Schwab children. 
.
– Robert Baty: Affirm 
– 
– Raymond Schwab: Deny 
– Surrogate (to be named): Deny 
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If you prefer, personally, the following proposition, I may be willing to accommodate you if we can work out the logistical details. 
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The Shara Michelle Schwab Proposition 
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The State of Kansas kidnapped the Schwab children. 
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– Shara Michelle: Affirm 

– Robert Baty: Deny 

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Comment #69 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 
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Good reporters go to the scene and get their hands and feet in the action. Certainly there will be photos of me in DC. That is where the action is. Where were you? You are covering stories without interviewing your subjects and I never see you on the scene. Good credible reporters don’t just read the internet and type stories.

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And the inaccuracies in your work are numerous.

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Have you seen my new album of photos of the event?

Have you interviewed Mr Schwab for accurate details?

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Comment #70 From Robert Baty

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For those who haven’t caught on yet, Shara is an advocate and she advocates through her claims to be reporting and other antics. 
.
Consider: 
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“The state of Kansas was NOT justified in 
‘kidnapping’ the Schwab children.” 
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– Shara Michelle 
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That’s just one small example, a most recent example, of Shara’s advocacy independent of any reporting she may claim to be doing. 
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That Shara is an advocate for the anti-government, anti-child welfare movement is ever present and obvious in her activities. 
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She won’t face me and defend her “kidnapping” characterization, and she, I propose, won’t find a representative for her or Raymond Schwab to face me and openly, honestly discuss that matter. 
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She’s had many opportunities to advance such a discussion and she has refused; preferring instead to do what Shara does which is archived in this venue. 

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Comment #71 From Robert Baty

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The Deven Backman video: 

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https://twitter.com/BatyvHovind/status/1041058461751029760

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Deven Backman, Raymond Schwab’s step-son and Amelia Scwhab’s biological son addressed some of the issues in the Schwab child custody case a few months back. 

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Someone needs to copy the video so that it can be more readily shared publicly. For now, it is limited to those with membership in the Understanding The Baby Holm Case group at the following link: 

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https://www.facebook.com/the.jeremy.ballard/videos/10104570349295341/

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You could say it is the video that Raymond and Amelia Schwab don’t want the “world” to see. 

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Shara Michelle, again, as an advocate!

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Update September 16, 2018

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Shara Michelle Admits “Advocacy” Is Her Game!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2703647736327373&set=a.2703647619660718&type=1&theater

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Update September 17, 2018

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Comment #72 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 
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Are you picking and choosing the parts from this conversation you want to include in your article again? 
.

Cease and desist publishing lies about me.

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“Freedom OF Press for our families” does not equate to advocacy.

What is the American dream Robert, without our families in tact.

What is your dream for America and the people. 
.
I love America and our good officers.

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Cease and desist publishing me as “anti-government”.

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I am an independant photo journalist and reporter for “our families”.

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Cease and desist calling me an advocate. 
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I would like to do a story on you.

Tell me about your wife and your family.

I will need all of your personal information for my story.

The world needs to see the real you Bat Man.

And a little spoonful of your medicine will be good for you~ 

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Comment #73 From Shara Michelle

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Shara, 
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You are an advocate and I report that. 
.
Your advocacy includes anti-government sentiments consistent with such sentiments as expressed by those you associate with and promote (i.e., like Keith Lentin, Jennifer Winn, Raymond Schwab, et al). 
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I don’t publish lies about you. 
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I told you before that you don’t need anything from me if you are serious about doing a story on me. 
.
We have a lot we might talk about, Shara, but you have shown yourself unable or unwilling to engage me in good faith in dealing with matters of mutual interest, such as: 
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1. Your claim I failed to report some of your comments in this venue. 
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2. Your claim that the Schwab children were kidnapped by the State of Kansas. 

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Update September 18, 2018

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Comment #74 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 
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You report FICTION.

“Pro-family” does NOT equate to “anti-government”.

Stop publishing lies about me. 
.

Yes, you omitted comments to fit your biased narrative. 
.

Yes, the Schwab children were KIDNAPPED.

The hard work of the Schwab family corrected this, they have been returned. 
.

No, you are not a reporter.

You never go to the scene and you never interview your victims. 
.

Are you hiding from your interview?

Something to hide from the public?

So far your profile fits that of a serial killer/stalker.

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You have no empathy and intend harm to your victims.

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I would like to do a story on you because I am interested in learning about the minds of serial killers/stalkers to help inform and protect the public.

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Comment #75 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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I am not publishing lies about you. 
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I did not omit any of your comments to fit any biased narrative. 
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The Schwab children were not kidnapped. 
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Amelia Schwab changed the course of their case after I and my people began reporting that that Raymond and Amelia had spent a couple of years or so building up their false narrative, with the evidence to prove to reasonable minds that such was the case. “We” get the credit for that change in the Schwab behavior that resulted in the return of the children (for better or worse). 
.
I’m not the one hiding, but I know some who are; like you, Shara, and Raymond! 
.
Go ahead and write your story about me, Shara. 
You’ve certainly got enough information available to you to do so. 
.
As for me and you, you have again shown that you are an unworthy correspondent, despite my long-suffering, and that you prefer to make lame claims that you have no intention of openly, honestly pursuing with someone with a mutual interest therein. 

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Update September 19, 2018

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Comment #76 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 
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All fiction!! 
Pro-family is not anti-government. 
The Schwab children were KIDNAPPED like so many. I intend to shine a light. 
Did you pick op the books I suggested for your problem?

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Comment #77 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 
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If you do find your way into the light, you will come to agree with me that the Schwab children were NOT kidnapped. 
.
For now, you again demonstrate why it is you are considered an unworthy correspondent; you give no indication that you have any interest in a good faith conversation regarding disputed matters of mutual interest. 
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You, Shara, seem to clearly prefer to hurl around your lame claims and never shut up or put up. 

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Update October 9, 2018

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Comment #78 From Shara Michelle

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Robert Baty: 

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I am white light~

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Comment #79 From Robert Baty

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Shara, 

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It appears Raymond’s case continues to just sit, waiting for the Court in Kansas to decide what to do with it. 

.

Meanwhile, it has been reported that the genesis of your decision to become an anti-government, anti-child welfare advocate is due to your own child custody issue with child welfare people and your ex-husband. I’ve added references in support of that to my coverage of you at: 

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http://kehvrlb.com/shara-michelle-freedom-public-press

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Maybe if we ever get together on mutually agreed terms, we can discuss your personal experience regarding that. 
Maybe not.

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Other Visual References

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Update September 3, 2018

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Link to Raymond Schwab’s Live Broadcast

https://www.facebook.com/freetheschwabchildren/videos/216823469191878/

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1065584646943997/

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Update October 9, 2018

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Related Article on Shara Michelle on this Website:

http://kehvrlb.com/shara-michelle-freedom-public-press

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Update October 30, 2018

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Raymond has had the summonses issued and now is in the process of “serving” his defendants; apparently via a private process server.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=259733764731016&id=100020831822325

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