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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425578747477117/permalink/1462206317147693/

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From: Melissa Griffith
Date: February 15, 2017

Time: 8:00 PM MT

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I spoke at length with Kammi this evening. She and her husband have first hand knowledge of Mr. Holm and Danielle. This is her experiences and therefore her opinion of the matter at hand. I have not had the same experiences with her and don’t necessary agree with all she believes, but I respect her willingness to put her time and effort into helping us see the issues from a first hand account, something most of us do not have.
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Thanks so much Kamila Susanna Richardson

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Some of this she has already shared. Please remember this is from September and early December, so the specific vocabulary shouldn’t be picked apart as this is a summary not quotes.

She and her husband first encountered the couple in September. Her husband usually arrives at church an hour or so before the service. He uses the time to prepare and pray for the service. On this particular Sunday, he was met with a very clean cut and nicely dressed couple. They were very positive and were eager to share their story. As they talked, it became very obvious there were very fundamental differences in beliefs and philosophy.

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Her husband, Noah, shared his Christian beliefs and earnestly asked them to join the service that morning.

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They respectfully declined because of the previously discussed differences.

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He also offered the use of the fellowship hall to rest and freshen up. They declined this also. During the service that morning Pastor Noah shared the news of the visitors and encouraged the congregation to speak and encourage the couple, specifically in a Christian manner.
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Several people did just that.
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Since Kammi and Noah travel to church in different cars, Kammi left the churchyard first and saw the couple walking. She stopped and offered them a ride, but their plans were to travel towards Oxford.

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A short time later, Noah also stopped and offered them a ride. He was traveling in the same direction as they were so they accepted.

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He continued to witness to them as they rode.

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As God often provides for times such as these, Noah had food in his car that he had not unloaded from the car and offered it to them when he let them out in Oxford. He left them in search of some type of flowing water where they could have their baby as their creator intended.

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At first they garnered some superficial support from the neighbor, but later began to be harassed to the point of feeling unsafe.

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They decided to travel to Cheaha State.

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As Kammi continued to her destination she remembered a friend who often needed house sitters and wished she had thought to mention it to the Holm couple. She called her friend, who lives in Cleburne County, and shared her and her husband’s experience with this confused but very committed young couple.

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Fast forward to early December. Kammi’s friend shared the medical kidnapped story with Kammi, inquiring as to if this was the couple Kammi had met in September, and of course it was. Kammi reached out to Mr. Holm through Facebook and after several conversation, the couple was invited to Kammi and Noah’s home.

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The difference in the appearance of the couple was staggering. Mr. Holm had lost weight and was distraught over the loss of his baby. Danielle was beside herself with grief. Rumpled and disheveled she was so confident the baby would be returned soon that she was still pumping breast milk so she would be able to continue nursing when he returned.

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Kammi states that they poured their hearts out that night, many of the personal details she is not willing to share, but that confirm her convictions about the couple.

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They shared their story of a budding friendship between Danielle and a supervisor at the park (unsure of the name). She seemed unnaturally attached to Danielle, and Mr. Holm stated he often felt her animosity toward him.

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When the time came that the couple realized they needed medical assistance, this person insisted she travel in the ambulance even if it meant Mr. Holm could not. This continued once they got to the hospital and hence the accusation of her involvement with someone at Cleburne DHR. There was some discussion as to whether this should be a Clay or Cleburne issue, but that is somewhat muddy water. Clay County EMS responded to the 911 call and possibly were in Clay County. It may be where some of the talk of broken laws and such comes from.

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She believes, that at that point in December, they had not had any previous meetings or conversations with Kent Hovind, but that they had been contacted by an unnamed paralegal who was guiding them through the process of getting their child back.

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She strongly advised them that the path they were pursuing would never be successful, and that she had personally seen many try and fail following this course.

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They would not be persuaded that it would not work.

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They even stated Hovind did it wrong, and how their plan was different.

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A very close friend of Kammi’s who is an attorney offered his services and believed he could get their child returned quickly. If they would only abandon the choice they had made and let him handle the case.

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They refused and assured all they knew what they were doing.

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Even though Kammi believes they are making the wrong choices, have erroneous and delusional ideas about God, Jesus and the Bible, that they truly believe what they are saying even if we do not understand any of it.

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She states that Mr. Holm often is so strongly rooted in HIS beliefs that he can’t carry on an extended conversation without trailing off into beliefs and philosophy. But, that he has always been very calm and respectful with his conversation with her, her husband and her friend.

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She has continued to reach out to the Holm couple both privately and publicly trying to get them to see the error of this path to no avail.

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As a side note, Kammi knows Kent Hovind…Many years ago they attended the same church and her brother was working at DinosaurLand when the IRS swept in.

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