After all the excitement on May 16, 2017, and the fact that the Williams’ threats (i.e., to sue me and to involve a myriad of law enforcement agencies and/or others in the promotion of their false charges) have not been officially resolved, I thought it would be appropriate here to document what it was that seems to have gotten them started in targeting me.

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It should be noted that the Williams should be considered as a “team”, and not independent actors.  Also, despite the apparent effort by them to distance themselves from the Schwab and Holm cases, it seems important to note that the exchange between us originated on the Schwab FaceBook page and involved the Holm case which has been allied with the Schwab case.

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Screen shots of all or part of the exchange are available, and the exchange, as of the time of this writing, was still publicly available for review on FaceBook at the link shown below.

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For those who may not have the time or interest to review the record below, I will just here note the first post by Kayla Williams where she “came out of the blue” to take up for her husband Timbo and immediately engage in her bullying and intimidation tactics of making false claims and threats against me.

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(Begin quote.)

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From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 1:52 PM

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Timbo is my husband and I can tell by the comments that you do not have a clue how the law actually works. All I see is you attacking my husband and these people and bringing up a case that is completely irrelevant to the causes we fight for! I recommend you remove yourself from this page, and cease your attacks on my husband and this family immediately!

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Link to Schwab FaceBook Thread

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https://www.facebook.com/schwabstrong/posts/420318631674450 – April 14, 2017

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OPENING POST FROM SERAPHIMAMELIA SCHWAB

 

I find it amusing that we have so many people dedicated toward spreading false information about us. Yet those same cowards won’t say anything on our open FB or page.

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Your threats, lies, and plots don’t do anything but make us realize you people know we are effective. Since you stalk our page, feel free to post your comments on it. Or hide in secret like the cowards you are and make yourselves feel better by strengthening yourself in your nonsense.

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Everything we do is public. And sometimes you sneak around those as well but won’t say anything. Do you ever just have a brief moment in your stupidity where you actually realize you are insane for supporting the trafficking of children?

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Waiting for the day we meet.

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The Relevant Thread History

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1. From: Robert Baty April 14, 2017 7:14 PM

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I don’t know who are you are talking about SeraphimAmelia Schwab. I seem to recall trying to post here and had my messages deleted.
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Well, given you invitation, I will try again, though I do not consider myself as evil as you make it sound and I don’t use the tactics you use to describe your supposed unnamed critics.
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You have taken up a number of other cases in your promotional efforts, and one of them, which I have had a special interest in is that of “Baby Holm”.
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I have gotten the impression that your interest in promoting that case has cooled somewhat for reasons, perhaps, that you have not publicly explained.
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My group, like yours, has on occasion discussed related cases having similar characteristics. Yours, SeraphimAmelia Schwab, has been one that has gotten quite a bit of discussion there in days gone by.
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So, if you think there are issues of mutual interest that might be pursued, let me know and maybe we can set up a stand-alone thread and advance that conversation; it can be mirrored here and in my group as well.
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My group is found at:
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1425578747477117/
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2. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 14, 2017 10:21 PM

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Wow, Robert Baty, that’s weird.

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3. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 14, 2017 10:22 PM

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I’ve never deleted anyone’s messages so post away. I think this will be a good conversation.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zoLCw4Xg0uo

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4. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 14, 2017 10:23 PM

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I support the holm family. 100% .

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Nothing has cooled.

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That’s your weird fault finding nature.

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5. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 14, 2017 10:24 PM

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Christian Holm, have we cooled?

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6. From Robert Baty April 14, 2017 10:31 PM

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If it is not Raymond Schwab posting under the “SeraphimAmelia Schwab” ID, please let me know.
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By 100%, Raymond, does that mean you will not be joining with me in supporting my public service announcement that has been developed based on Brady Byrum’s involvement in the Baby Holm case?

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7. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017  7:26 AM

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As to the Meme of Brady Byrum…..It states he is not a Lawyer or Paralegal. A good tip to follow here from myself a real and bonifide Paralegal, 18 years freelance in civil rights complaints, Federal Fair Housing and work place Civil Rights investigator and inducted into the criminal Justice Honor Society Alpha Phi Sigma, and 4 years as a Military JAG legal specialist , ANY person who claims to be a Paralegal and offers a “contract” for services or offers to legally “advise anyone is breaking the law. A Paralegal has a legal code to follow and a code of Ethics. We Paralegals do not practice law or enter contracts. If a Paralegal offers a Contract they are not a Paralegal.

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8. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 8:07 AM

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Byrum is a total Nut Job. He claims to have been Navy, and a “volunteer Nuke guard with SWAT. SWAT does not guard Nukes they are guarded by The USMC, I knowe this because my 2nd to the oldest brother was USMC who guarded Nukes in SC.. He has written opinion on not having a Drivers License in Texas. He claims to have been a material witness in a case challenging fox to interview him, he has Claims to have invented a Shot Gun Slug that he was looking for investors….the list is never ending with this Moron.

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9. From Timbo Williams April 15, 8:09 AM

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let Brady Byrum post, dont block him, I will call him out and challenge any legal theory he has and make him look like the idiot he is. It could educate people on how to spot a troll and fraud.

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10. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 8:18 AM

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So what do you do Robert besides make memes.

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11. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 8:20 AM

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SeraphimAmelia Schwab Is Holms using this nut Byrum and does Robert support Byrum?

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Trying to get caught up because this Byrum dude is dangerous to any cause.

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12. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 12:02 PM

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SeraphimAmelia Schwab
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I still don’t know if I am conversing with Raymond, Amelia, or someone else.
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As I noted above, Raymond, Amelia, whoever, if there is something of mutual interest you think we need to pursue, let me know and maybe we can advance that discussion.
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For now, I will note that your claim to support Mr. Holm “100%” is not particularly meaningful.
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As I note in the following article, it was Brady Holm’s secret involvement in the Baby Holm case, on behalf of Mr. Holm, that brought me into following the case and I have found Mr. Holm and his supporters quite reluctant to discuss the details.
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I even recall Raymond posting something critical of using sovcit legal antics such as Brady Byrum used in the Baby Holm case; which would suggest 100% support of Mr. Holm is exaggerated.

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http://kehvrlb.com/kents-brady-byrum-meddling-in-baby-holm-case
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13. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 12:04 PM

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And then there is that 25-page letter that Mr. Holm was so proud of that he sent it to numerous officials, more than once.
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Except he refused to make it public and only recently was a copy made available through another source.
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No surprise that it reflects just the sort of thing Brady Byrum specializes in, but it appears Mr. Holm is still not talking about all of that.
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A link to a copy of that document can be found in the following article:

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http://kehvrlb.com/brady-byrums-no-longer-secret-baby-holm-billion-letter

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14. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:19 PM

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I meant I support Mr Holmes and his family in fighting for their kidnapped child. What method he uses is between him and God. I don’t know what sovsit means.

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15. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:21 PM

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For the Love of God they have violated so many laws in their case, that should be of concern to you. Or maybe you believe it’s ok to steal children if people don’t agree with their political views. Maybe we should go after republicans children

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16. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 12:26 PM

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Raymond,
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Thanks for clarifying your position regarding that 100% claim; indicating you are not too well informed on the details of the Baby Holm case.
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My fundamental position is that the State of Alabama had legitimate, legal interests in the welfare of Baby Holm and legally and properly took custody of the child and that Mr. Holm/Danielle have been diligent in pursuing a course that would guarantee no expeditious resolution of the case; including bringing in Brady Byrum.

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17. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:26 PM

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You have better memes anyways. Share the ones you made about us.

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18. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:29 PM

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If that’s what you call legal and proper…whatever. What about the thousands of others. What’s your stake in this..? What’s your legal name, where are you from and what is your profession?

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19. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 12:33 PM

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Raymond,
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So, you are not interested in challenging my position regarding the taking of Baby Holm by the State of Alabama.
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I will consider that progress.
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If there is something substantive you think we might pursue; let me know.
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Feel free to copy and post any memes you might want to discuss with me.

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20. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:34 PM

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Never mind. You apparently have a history.

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21: From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:34 PM

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http://ytmp.blogspot.com/2015/02/is-robert-baty-agent-of-new-world.html
(Article has since been removed-RLBaty)

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22. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:35 PM

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/02/18/irs-veteran-carries-fight-against-clergy-tax-abuse-into-retirement/#47e379ed169f

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23. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:35 PM

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Your just looking for the next group to attack to get you media attention

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24. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:36 PM

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Just post your own. Say the truth in your heart

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25. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:36 PM

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I’m not in this to debate in pointless debates with internet trolls. We are fighting for families and children in realtime. Not to mention your a deceitful man who has been attacking us in secret.

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26. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 12:40 PM

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Bwahahahahaha!
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Yeah, I am a real celebrity on the Internet.
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And you appear to have some pretty lame excuses for not seriously taking up any substantive matters.
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Thanks for the demonstrations, Raymond. They contribute quite a bit of value to the public record.

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27. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:42 PM

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You want to debate issues come to the May 1st event in Missouri

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28. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:42 PM

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Or the million parent march

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29. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 12:46 PM

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That’s not how it works, Raymond, but thanks again for your demonstrations.
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If you think you have anything substantive to dispute regarding my positions in these important public issues, we can begin the negotiations as to how best to advance that discussion.
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I won’t be holding my breath.

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30. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 12:46 PM

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Sovcit is a self proclaimed name people give themselves it stand s for Sovereign Citizen which means they give legal advice and blogs on matters they have little knowledge of. As Sove cits they write opinions and usually are crack pots who havnt got a clue. The publicly give the impression they are some kind of experts. They use fake contracts to hold over people for liens and ransoms for their “expert services”.

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31. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:52 PM

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Ok. I would agree that’s not the strategy I would take but I’m more concerned about State Sponsored Child Trafficking and stopping them.

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32. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:55 PM

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We advance by you joining us in public, talking to the families being victimized, learning what’s going on. We advance by learning how you advocate for others, support struggling families in your way.

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33. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 12:56 PM

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#sorryann

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34. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 1:03 PM

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No, Raymond. I guess you are too used by having others let you control the narrative. Funny!
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I get that you are not up to even starting the negotiations for a proper discussion that will actually advance the discourse on some point of mutual interest.
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Let me know if you change you mind and we can get started.

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35. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 1:06 PM

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Will do

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36. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 1:15 PM

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I do agree that I do not like Byrum or a “Sovcit” they are experts in Nothing. On that note I also disagree with you that the state had a legitimate, legal interest. The state violated the Holms Civil rights and stole a child without due process…Period. You cannot prove me wrong on that.

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37. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 1:18 PM

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Of course I can’t prove you wrong if, as it appears, you get to decide the issue.
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As far as how “we the people” decide such issues; you lost, I won!
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If you think you can win that issue, you need to get with Mr. Holm and get your legal work started. Bwahahahahaha!
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I’ll try to keep up with his case and see if your position ever gets any serious attention. Bwahahahahaha!
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Thanks for the followup.

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38. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 1:28 PM

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Robert Baty you have no clue as to how CPS/DCF takes kids. Your obsession for Hovind has brought you into this group of parents who are fighting a system that takes kids without PC,Due process in violation of Civil Rights. Your obsession with Hovind has blinded you to the fact in the Holms case these due process rights were not violated and somehow the State had a legitimate reason. In your own words regarding Hovind you state “Fortunately, in our legal system it is the jury that gets to make an informed decision based on the evidence as to whether or not such as Kent is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt or not.They found him guilty on all counts, beyond a “reasonable” doubt.

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And from what I know about the case, that was the correct decision. You say that based on your knowledge of the Holms case the state had legitimate reason BUT you do not realize that the process for Kent which you defend is lacking in CPS/DCF cases. So no there is no need to advance your agenda against Byrum and Hovind and the lot here in this forum and group, because your agenda is not like ours. We are here to protect children and demand Due process in these cases. You are only interested in your petty arguments against the Kent, Hovind and Byrum case. This is not the forum and you distract especially when you Support the decision of the Child Kidnappers and speak out against the Holms’. So you really need to just shut up, you are not helping.

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39. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 15, 2017 1:35 PM

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This is amelia… It seems to me, Robert Baty, that you are not seeking truth here. Who would want to do a debate with someone who spreads misinformation and hate before they even try to find out the facts? As a matter of fact, sir, I would like to say you know almost nothing about our case; I assure you. We do not have time to contend with a foolish person. We are fighting for our kids while trying to help all families and children affected badly by it. We are trying to get reform while you just bash strangers. I am not concerned about the bashing, ugly will come no matter what… but to act like you are trying to spread truth while spreading misinformation and NOT EVEN TRYING TO FIND OUT THE FACTS… Well I just dont have the time or energy. I said it before to you, if you want to know facts email me, I am an open book. If you dont then, May the Lod Jesus Christ have mercy on your soul… Go your way and hate on us away from us. May God give you salvation, it seems you are not a happy person, I hope one day you can feel REAL joy.

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40. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 1:51 PM

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Robert Baty So In you own words you say Kent had Due process, a court hearing and a Jury. So warrants Probable cause and all other Bill of rights protections were in Place. So the State had a legitimate case. I would agree. Holms Civil rights were violated in that there was no due process. No warrant, No probable cause but his child was taken, No court in a Jury of peers where the state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt on a a gut feeling of untrained Social Workers and a Administrative process dictates that no evidnece on behalf of Holms is allowed or even considered by a Family court Judge without any due process….but you claim the State was legitimate? Man you are nuts.

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41. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 1:41 PM

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Bwahahahahaha!
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Typical, and typically lame are the latest messages from Timbo and Amelia.
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Let me know if you should repent and want to begin the negotiations and get serious about advancing a public discussion of some issue of mutual interest and which may be disputed.
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I won’t hold my breath, but I will again thank you for your demonstrations.

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42. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 1:52 PM

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Timbo is my husband and I can tell by the comments that you do not have a clue how the law actually works. All I see is you attacking my husband and these people and bringing up a case that is completely irrelevant to the causes we fight for! I recommend you remove yourself from this page, and cease your attacks on my husband and this family immediately!

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43. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 1:53 PM

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Timbo,
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We’ve been there and done that!
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Your “Period” in an earlier post tells everyone about your closemindedness and lack of interest in open, honest dialogue regarding important public issues.
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Let me know should you repent and want to begin the negotiations regarding the possibility of having a proper exchange on some point(s) of mutual interest.

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44. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 2:00 PM

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Robert Baty “advancing public discussion….Mutual interest”??? What Mutual interest? All CPS/DCF have the same non use of due process but you defend the state as legitimate in the Holms Case? We have no mutual interest for the fact you have no clue how Due Process works in the Family Court/Juvie system. My agenda is helping families fight the illegal child trafficking done by the state. Your interest is in discrediting anything to do with your obsession attactched to Byrum in the Kent case that has nothing to do with CPS/DCF.

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45. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 2:08 PM

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I get it, Timbo!
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You and yours have an endless supply of lame excuses for not starting the negotiations so we might have a legitimate discussion of some point(s) of disagreement regarding these important public issues.
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And your little woman has been threatening me, it seems.
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So, thanks again for the demonstrations. Should you repent, and get a permission slip from Kayla, look me up and maybe we can get started with the negotiations.

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46. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 2:19 PM

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Robert Baty, First off all my wife is off limits to you especially your misogynistic “little women” comment. Ask me a direct question relevant to Due process and the Holms case…other than that I have no clue what you are trying to discuss. Amelia appears to have grown weary of your ramblings. Maybe you should go back to work for the IRS and leave legal debate out of your life…it does not appear to be your strong point. You blindly claim that CPS/DCF is legitimate and due process is followed. Explain.

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47. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 2:22 PM

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Same song, different verse!
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You aren’t up to the task before us, Timbo, and you have repeatedly shown that. I appreciate your demonstration, and that of Raymond, Amelia and Kayla; valuable they are, indeed!
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Get a clue, repent, and then look me up and we can start the negotiations if we can find some point(s) of mutual interest to discuss regarding these important public issues.
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The State has Baby Holm, and you’ve got nothing, nothing, nothing that will justify a change to that. It’s a good case study from which one might be able to evaluate the merits of what Mr. Schwab and others are ranting about, including you, Timbo.

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48. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 2:24 PM

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Little woman huh? You have no clue who I am and not once have I made any threats on here to you or anyone else. All I did was advise you to leave my husband and this family alone! I don’t make threats, I’m a woman who is all about action. The only one who needs to “repent” is you!

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49. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 2:27 PM

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the state has Baby Holm in violation of due process…in other words unlawfully. The only remedy is Section 42, 1983 complaints in federal courts. You sicken me with your belief that it is ok for the state to enter a home without probable cause, without warrant and sieze a child. Defend that?

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50. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 2:29 PM

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I am familiar with your frivolous positions, Timbo.
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Let me know if you are ready to start the negotiations and arrange for a discussion of one or more points of mutual interest regarding these important public issues.
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And, if you aren’t going to allow me with your wife, why not talk to her about shutting about me.

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51. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 2:32 PM

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I am a woman who speaks my own mind, no one, not even my husband controls what I say or do. I will not “shut up” about you as long as you are attacking my husband and this family! You brought me in by attacking my husband! Now you get to deal with both of us! I take screenshots of everything BTW!

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52. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 2:35 PM

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I also think you regard yourselfas a Jr Expert but you are glory hound you are baiting people into comments to use in blogs and maybe get a book deal. You actually begged a man to have a guest spot on his blog. You seek attention ergo the ” Let me know if you are ready to start the negotiations and arrange for a discussion of one or more points of mutual interest regarding these important public issues.” What Issues you never say? Negotiate what? My wife can speak for herself I was referring to your Little Women insult you blasted at her. You do not want to debate because you never say what you are debating. You wish negotiate what, you never say, you wish to discuss important public issues and never say.

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53. From Timbo Willaims April 15, 2017 2:37 PM

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Robert Baty screen shot BTW, “And, if you aren’t going to allow me with your wife, why not talk to her about shutting about me” Looks real bad in context dont you think?

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54. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 2:39 PM

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Bwahahahahahaha!

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Really, Timbo, Really!!
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Remember your “Period”.
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You already let on you weren’t up to a reasonable and reasoned discussion of substantive matters on which we differ.
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I got it.
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Thanks again for the demonstrations. Look me up should you repent and figure out how more formal discussions are arranged, and we can begin the negotiations.

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55. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 2;44 PM

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do you take meds? When did I say I wouldnt discuss, when did I say that, also explain this mind numbing statement you keep making, “Thanks again for the demonstrations. Look me up should you repent and figure out how more formal discussions are arranged, and we can begin the negotiations.” what the hell are you trying to say?

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56. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 2:59 PM

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 Timbo Williams If he doesn’t take meds I would recommend he seek therapy and treatment immediately to deal with his obsessions over the Holm’s case. As someone who has a psychology degree and experience working with many who have mental illnesses, I would say he needs an immediate evaluation!

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57. From Robert Baty April 15, 2017 4:13 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/robert.baty.1/posts/1084185655021454

 

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58. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 4:33 PM

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One you do not have my permission to use my name or my husband’s photos on your page. Two, I do not know the Holm’s family who you are clearly obsessed with and I would advise you to seek out a mental health evaluation to evaluate your obsession with them. Three I do not live in Alabama. Four I warned you to stop with your attacks against my husband and this family, and I can now prove harassment and stalking. Have a nice day!

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59. From Kayla Williams April 15, 2017 4:56 PM

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Robert Please respond with your county and State of jurisdiction so I can make sure I am pressing charges under the correct jurisdiction. (Note I can find this information on my own, but it’s so much easier if you confirm it yourself!) 

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60. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 5:01 PM

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Dude you are nuts, a Stalker and troll. You posted this on your “Hovinds worse nightmare page”, You posted my profile cover on your personal pages. You need serious meds and help.. You Trolled a group and kept repeating the phrase “Get a clue, repent, and then look me up and we can start the negotiations if we can find some point(s) of mutual interest to discuss regarding these important public issues.” Because you wanted to bait the group into going to your page and discuss it to build your own popularity and try to gain credibility. You are certifiable, been kicked off FB before for stalking, I believe I saw where you falsely accused people and filed a fake police report that their was a conspiracy to kill you. We keep these issues and discuss in our group. Stay away from my family, You are a Lunatic. You are the one who would state a opinion on Due Process in relation to CPS/DCF. You just want to bash the Holms family because they had a connection Byrum and Hovind. You are an idiot with delusions of grandeur and not a clue as to how the DHS system works. Stick with numbers tax man.

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61. From Timbo Williams April 15,  2017 5:54 PM

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One small victory for me Mr. Baty, HA, After mine and your little debate in this blog your Buddy P. Reilly pulled you story from his Blog….I will seek every blog about you and stop your hate!

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(Peter J. Reilly denies removing the article; claiming his blog was “hacked”!-RLBaty

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62. From Timbo Williams to Susan Cobb April 15, 2017 6:03 PM

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We are all over it. Its reported and this guy is a certifiable nut and obssed withe Kent Hovind case which was a Preacher who went to prison. This Nut Batty boy Baty was the IRS agent in that high profile case which was many years ago. He even to this day, because the lime light faded from him still has blogs and 1000s of trolling comments all over Blogs and FB. A man that was involved in his IRS case many years ago by the name of Byrum is also part of the team helping the Holms family. He picked up on the Baby Holms case because of his obsession with the Hovind case and hate for Byrum. (hope I havent lost you yet). He has been posting the Holms case on blogs all over the place and has a huge following of 18 people. He hates anyone who advocates against the Social Workers CPS/DCF. He can care less about the Bill of Rights Due Process regarding CPS/DCF….his obsession is Hovind and Byrum. He is truly nuts and needs a new hobby. But now he is dragging my profile and name all over the internet, so he will see what Paralegals do when we are stalked and Harrased.

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63. From TImbo Williams April 15, 2017 6:12 PM

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Thanks, I just left a commenbt on a blog he wrote in another persons blog and responded to an aritcle in Forbes abut him this is what I am posting on all his Blogs and Public Media interviews “My Name Is Timbo Williams ,I am 18 year free lance Paralegal, Nationally inducted into Alpha Phi Sigma for Criminal Justice. Former Army JAG legal Specialist. I am also a 18 year Civil Rights investigator and Advocate against CPS/DCF from their
unbridled use of an administrative process that allows Social Workers without any Probable Cause or Warrant to enter a home and take a CHild in Violation of Bill of Rights protected Due process. Today this nut bobby boy baty Came into a group of parents fighting the system that have children taken unlawfully and states he believes the Holms family deserved what they got. He connects his 15 minutes of fame with the old news of Hovind because Byrum was involved in both Holms and Hovind. He then wont debate any issue of the direct question of Social Workers and Due process but instead kept posting the message over and over of “Get a clue, repent, and then look me up and we can start the negotiations if we can find some point(s) of mutual interest to discuss regarding these important public issues.” Problem is he would never say what public issues, or discussion it was he was referring to. He then declared “I Won”, without even discussing the topic.He then trolled out profiles and group, copied my Profile and posted it on his personal page with a “proposed discussion” of the “Great Holms Debate”, inviting me my wife and a few others in the group, Based on his rules and his page But heres the kicker, you cannot comment on that page. Then he shares My profile and this “discussion” that was already going on in our group To his “I am not Hovind but I am his worse nightmare page” and has the “discussion invitation” with our groups discussion our names and after each name it states ( Affirm or Deny)like its a SCOTUS dissenting opinion. This man Bobby batty boy Baty is a complete Nut.

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64. From Timbo Williams April 15, 2017 7:24 PM

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Mr Baty decided to make me the poster child and the “Schwab cause champion.”..but adds I am a Coward, Hypocrite and Liar. Since he drug me to his followers page I took the opportunity to post this message for his all of 85 viewers. “Thank you for the free advertisement getting my name out there. Thing is Libel statements against me is a bad thing. I am an Advocate against the crooked system that takes 500,000 kids a year to a tune of multi billions in revenue for the states. CPS/DCF takes kids without warrants or any probable cause. Out of the 500,000 only about 10% are founded. That means in violation of due process 450,000 kids are placed in the system and after about 18 months its determined they should have not been there. Plus the fact more kids die in the foster care system than at the hands of the general public. Many of these kids unlawfully taken are abused and need therapy because of the Trauma of the state inflicted abuse.” So thank you Mr Robert Baty for giving me the Soap Box on you two pages and access and info to where you are blogged. Fighting CPS/DCF with help from people like you that hate our cause and blast on innocent families. You state you are missionary your god must be proud of all that hate and revenge you spout out.

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65. From Timbo Williams April 16, 2017 10:00 AM

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Albama Statutes state that a child is to be removed only if there is a threat of harm ‘harm to a child’s health or welfare through non-accidental physical or mental injury or the sexual abuse or exploitation of a child.” A mother refusing Nursing treatment has that right. Child Birth is a natural Biological function. Parents have the right to not immediately apply for a birth certificate, they can wait to name the child and have it dedicated by clergy of any religion before deciding upon a name. The state must offer services such as emergency housing shelter, food and clothing in order to keep the family intact. So not matter they took the child it is unlawful without probable cause, due process and warrant. The state had no standing in separation because there existed no willful neglect, it was a hospital and the child was not in “immediate danger ” which is required. No services were offered.

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66. From SeraphimAmelia Schwab April 16, 2017 10:01 AM

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You can’t convince bitterness Timbo Williams let it go man. We know who they are. Don’t feed their negative spirits.

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