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Dateline: March 17, 2020

by Robert Baty

Late on the evening of March 17, 2020 I received a report from a source that did not want to be named.  He advised me that a 7 year old child, one of a pair of twins, drowned on Kent Hovind’s 145 acre conpound near Lenox, AL on Sunday, March 15, 2020.  The death apparently was officially reported the afternoon of March 17, 2020.

The report appears credible, but I am waiting for confirmation or rebuttal/denial.

On Sunday morning, in his “sermon”, before the alleged incident, Kent Hovind did make reference to a family fitting the description in the report I received.  Following is the link to Kent’s comments and the graphic created therefrom.

https://youtu.be/Z3JF6CKIG3w?t=60

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Claims in the report I received:

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Actual “Official” word on this will have to come from the Sheriff’s Department. I got this from an official source outside the department who doesn’t want to go on record.
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I heard earlier today – and got it officially confirmed late this afternoon – that a 7 year old boy drowned at DAL on Sunday.
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The boy (a twin) was at DAL with his family from Indiana.
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The boy was transported to Monroe County Hospital.
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The Conecuh Sheriff’s Office, accompanied by Alabama DHR, went to DAL and conducted an investigation.
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I understand no charges have been filed at this time.
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Report I got was the people at DAL refused to talk to DHR and would only talk to the Sheriff’s Department.
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I have not spoken to the Conecuh Sheriff’s Office. This info did not come from them.
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I was also told that although “people on the scene” did not see Hovind – he did show up at the hospital… and handed out fliers for DAL while he was there!!

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In response to my report of the rumor, James Alan Schonefeld asked his FaceBook fans if they had heard anything.  Following is the link to his thread about that and some of the responses.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=819432411887951&set=a.102847523546447&type=3&theater

James posted the following in my Hovind FaceBook group thread at:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1491892174313240/

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Update March 18, 2020

Another testimonial from James Allen Schonefeld’s page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=819432411887951&set=a.102847523546447&type=3&theater

And another one:

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This additional testimony comes from a person I asked to ask someone else and that someone else asked someone close to the action at Kent’s conpound.  Maybe it’s accurate.  Maybe not.

I now have been provided screenshots in the coverage of the story by The Monroe Journal!

https://www.monroejournal.com/

Close Ups of Above Story

 

Mark Stoney, along with his 5 year old daughter, has been a resident of Kent’s conpound for a long, long time.  He has now made an appearance and attempted a justification of Kent Hovind’s lack of public response regarding the incident.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1492822674220190/

Go to link above for the fuller context of that exchange with Sean!

My own opinion is that the actions by the parents and Kent are indicative of more sinister motives designed to keep the truth from prying eyes.

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Update March 19, 2020

Mark Stoney has attempted further cover and defense of Kent Hovind with the additional comments from the thread at the link below:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1491892174313240/

 

Here is another post in that exchange involving Kent Hovind’s Mark Stoney from the thread on FaceBook at:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1491892174313240/

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Example of Kent Hovind’s infamous and cavalier attitude towards safety at his conpound!

https://youtu.be/ToEG-CrEvDM?t=453

Images of where the incident occurred near Lenox, AL.  We have a lot more to learn about the details.  Due to the secrecy surrounding Kent Hovind and his people, we might never learn such details, and the Sheriff’s/DHR investigations may not even have been very thorough.

The Obituary

https://www.memorylanepark.com/obituaries/Steven-Alexander-4/#!/Obituary

The Parents

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1

https://www.facebook.com/margaret.j.alexander

The Morning On The Day Of The Incident

https://www.facebook.com/margaret.j.alexander/videos/10157178373812333/

Above video has been removed from public view!

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It has been proposed that the following Alabama State Statute might be one possible legal basis for criminally prosecuting Kent Hovind in this case.

https://codes.findlaw.com/al/title-13a-criminal-code/al-code-sect-13a-6-4.html

Here’s another example of Kent making light of safety issues.  Notice the driver and passenger, employees of Kent, do not appear to have been wearing helmets.

https://youtu.be/d0-D8abMquM?t=1355

Looks like Randall, Alexander’s father, ran for elective office last year, and lost.

https://www.facebook.com/Randall-J-Alexander-Jr-for-Lake-Station-Indiana-City-Council-1st-District-517971028695544/

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Kent Hovind got some early ministerial training “at the feet of” Jack Hyles and I think he is still a fan.  Jack and his son and their school and church continue to be plagued by scandals of some merit, even to this day.  I have no idea what Margaret’s and Randall’s experience with them might have been.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156184638427333&set=a.427826902332&type=3&theater

Link to a February 18, 2020 article about the continuing scandals:

https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/past-hammond-baptist-pastor-raped-girl-repeatedly-federal-lawsuit-alleges/article_cbdb157d-72ce-5179-85a9-b363b4d1a255.html

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Update March 20, 2020

Hemant Mehta has addressed the issue in a blog entry on his “Friendly Atheist” venue at:

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/20/a-7-year-old-boy-drowned-at-creationist-kent-hovinds-dinosaur-adventure-land/

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A 7-Year-Old Boy Drowned at Creationist Kent Hovind’s “Dinosaur Adventure Land”

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The incident happened Sunday, according to the Monroe Journal (which is behind a paywall). The boy was declared dead after ambulance workers took him to a local hospital.
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An autopsy is pending. (The autopsy was, apparently, completed days ago, before the body was transported back to Indiana.  The funeral is scheduled for today. -RLBaty)
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The article says that while life jackets are available near the lake, the boy wasn’t wearing one. It’s possible, Hovind told the paper, that the boy slipped on a nearby dock before falling into the water, considering there was a mark on his head (presumably a scar of some sort). For now, it appears to be an accident and there’s no indication the family plans to sue Hovind or the attraction.
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It’s worth mentioning that the park is uninsured and everyone is told they’re entering at their own risk. The park itself is Hovind’s attempt to debunk evolution, which he calls the “dumbest religion in the history of the world.” In the past, I would’ve said the only things at risk are your brain cells. I guess I was wrong.

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Hovind didn’t reply to a request for comment.

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From today’s performance, live, for the Red River Bible and Prophecy Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16qm7QBuHI

No, I was not involved in the side-bar comments!

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Update March 20, 2020

Kent Hovind breaks his silence!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCJ5vbpJbk

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Update March 21, 2020

Early observations from Charles Laine, taken from Kent’s video last night.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1494559270713197/

From that same thread, this morning, is this from Marie White:

Another from another thread from Charles Laine:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1494517970717327/

And from that thread there is this from Tressa this morning:

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From my Twitter page:

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Some comments from Kent’s video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCJ5vbpJbk&t=325s

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Hemant Mehta has now returned today with an additional blog on the matter!

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/21/creationist-yes-a-boy-drowned-at-my-park-but-his-siblings-had-a-blast-here/

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Creationist: Yes, a Boy Drowned at My Park, But His Siblings “Had a Blast Here”

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We had, this last Sunday, rumors going around the internet about an accidental drowning here at Dinosaur Adventure Land, and it’s true. There was a family with five kids, twin seven-year-olds, all playing in the lake together. The water was three feet deep. Suddenly the dad noticed that Steven, the 7-year-old, was gone. And he apparently slipped on the dock and hit his head. Nobody saw. We don’t know. But he did drown in our lake. And we tried — [to someone off-screen] your (Jonathan Rife) wife (Bethany Rife) is a medical doctor, and she’s right there on the scene with him. As soon as she got him out of the water — we don’t know how long he was underwater — she gave him CPR, probably did everything right, took him to the hospital…

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[Chatter off-screen]

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Yeah, I mean… it’s just… too late. We don’t know what happened.

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Anyway, the kids had a blast here, and the dad wants to bring all the kids back and loves the place

(End quotes.)

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And then he mocked the guy from Twitter (Robert Baty) before criticizing him for making “the family feel bad their boy drowned.”

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I knew Hovind lacked brainpower. I didn’t realize he lacked a heart, too.

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Everyone who enters Dinosaur Adventure Land is told they’re entering at their own risk because there are no medical professionals or lifeguards on site. There’s no indication the family plans to sue Hovind or the attraction.

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(Thanks to @globexhank for the link)

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I have an article at the following link, on this website, addressing the strange, curious, and mysterious case of Bethany & Jonathan Rife, and their 4 minor children, moving in recently with Kent Hovind on his conpound.

http://kehvrlb.com/jonathan-bethany-rife-move-in-with-kent

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It seems Randall and/or Margaret Alexander were/are in to multi-level marketing schemes.  There was a report earlier about their financial issues.  Perhaps there is a connection and what their “impromptu” trip was all about.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210181020214313&set=ecnf.1003337622&type=3&theater

Information about “It Works” is found at:

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/crazy-wrap-thing/

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Additional comments from Kent’s video last night.  Of particular note is that Paul John Hansen was tried along with Kent Hovind, convicted, and sentenced to 18 months.  Paul served his time, got out a little early, and has been spending a lot of time on Kent’s conpound.

https://youtu.be/WKCJ5vbpJbk?t=750

 

Steven Michael Alexander’s School

https://ambassadors1.webs.com/

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Update March 22, 2020

Time marked link to Kent’s comments this morning:

https://youtu.be/odcy9T-sEMA?t=8805

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March 23, 2020

Mark Stoney, a resident on Kent’s conpound, has offered additional details as indicated below:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1496477287188062/

Some Questions and Answers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1496870373815420/

Question:
1. Who were the several other people (real names)?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
1. I have never given you people’s names and I’m not about to start. I know personally what you do to people when you learn their names and it’s not cool.
 
Question/Request
2. Show on the aerial map(s) the various locations of all the people involved in or around the drowning.
 
Mark Stoney Response:
2. I’ll include in a separate comment (see screenshot above).
 
Question:
3. Who was Mark’s “friend” (real name) that performed CPR?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
3. Again, not giving you the opportunity to dox and harass my friends.
 
Question:
4. Where was Bethany Rife before the drowning?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
4. I’m not sure. She was with her kids somewhere around the main community area.
 
Question:
5. Where was Jonathan Rife when Mark encountered him?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
5. He was driving towards the lake as I was driving away to find Bethany.
 
Question:
6. Where was Steven’s mother before the drowning?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
6. She was in their cabin taking a nap due to having a headache.
 
Question:
7. Where were Kent & Cindi before the drowning?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
7. In their home.
 
Question:
8. How and when did Kent and/or Cindi arrive at the drowning scene?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
8. They drove there immediately after I informed them what was going on.
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Question:
9. Provide a time line as to when the boy was discovered and when the ambulance arrived and left, when the Sheriff and/or deputy arrived and left, and when DHR arrived and left.
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Mark Stoney Response:
9. I was not paying attention to the time. I have already given the chronological order of things, just not with specific times.
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Question:
10. Who (real names) did the Sheriff and/or deputy (name) interview?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
10. Again, I’m not willing to give you names because you will not respect people’s privacy.
 
Question:
11. Who (real names) did DHR (name) interview?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
11. Same as above.
 
Question:
12. Why did Mark pass Bethany’s husband in preference for trying to find Steven’s mother, Kent, and Cindi?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
12. I left the scene to find Bethany. I passed Jonathan along the way and told him to get Bethany ASAP.
 
Question:
13. Did Bethany accompany the child in the ambulance to the hospital?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
13. I believe so.
 
Question:
14. Did Bethany perform CPR on the child until they got to the hospital?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
14. If she was in the ambulance, I imagine she did.
 
Question:
15. When was 911 actually called?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
15. 911 was called while I was driving to find Bethany. I would have called myself but my phone only gets service near my booster in my house.
 
Question:
16. Who called 911?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
16. I’m not sure
 
Question:
17. Did the Alexanders transport the deceased child back to Indiana in their own vehicle with the rest of the family?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
17. I believe so.
 
Question:
18. Why would Kent say that Bethany was right there, on the scene, as soon as the boy was removed from the water?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
18. She was there when he got there so he probably made that assumption. Bethany was not present when the boy was found.
 
Question:
19. Was there more than one visit to the conpound by the Sheriff and/or his deputy and/or DHR? If so, please explain.
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
19. A deputy was there around the time the boy was transported, he conducted one interview with the young man who started cpr and left. Another deputy or the same (I never saw the first) came later that evening with The 4 representatives from DHR (Department of Human Resources)
 
Question:
20. Where are the pictures/videos of the events, before, during, and after the drowning and dealings with the Sheriff and/or deputy and DHR?
 
Mark Stoney Answer:
20. Nobody was filming. Nobody was taking pictures. Only the deputy who accompanied the DHR workers took photos of the scene. And it was dark so they couldn’t have been very good.

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https://www.fark.com/comments/10753464/Creationist-them-park-owner-Yes-a-boy-did-die-at-my-park-but-until-then-family-had-a-great-time-Fark-Not-Ken-Ham-TBNs-Holy-Land-Experience

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HMM!  What is the connection?

https://www.facebook.com/michael.alexander.12720

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This Just In As Well

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1496477287188062/

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Link to news article detailing the incident and arrest of Michael Todd Alexander:

https://www.nwitimes.com/news/man-held-loaded-shotgun-to-girlfriend-s-chin-threatened-to/article_a2e592ed-80b6-57df-9862-3c7a78b5b5ba.html

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Update March 24, 2020

Seems odd that Steven’s dad would post the following with an old photograph and old information, without comment!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218684883885590&set=a.1416817532796&type=3&theater

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Update March 25, 2020

Mark Drysdale addressed the issue in his debate with “Standing for Truth” tonight.

https://youtu.be/YvkbtU50JYk?t=7200

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Update March 26, 2020

Michael Alexander responds to the charges against him.

https://regionnewssource.org/hobart-man-assaults-female-then-held-a-gun-to-her-head/

My response to Michael Alexander

In the above response to Michael, I

erroneously said that Kent’s conpound

was in “Indiana”.  I sent in a

correction.  It’s “Alabama”.

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Update March 28, 2020

Looks like we have some more potential drowning witnesses who were told to keep their mouths shut about it.

https://www.facebook.com/GospelStreetMission/

https://www.facebook.com/Ruseld8329/posts/1090733284624334

(Gospel Street later posted that their family was not there at the time of the drowning.)

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Breaking News From Mark Drysdale

From the Thread at the Link Below

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1501715339997590/

Kent Hovind to Mark Drysdale

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Randal Alexander is the father of the boy who drowned.

He was within 10 feet.

A doctor (Bethany Rife) was on the scene within 5 minutes.
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I talked with the dad 10 minutes ago 219-290-5980.

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He said we handled it well and is going to comment on your last appearance on Modern day debate where you tried to make me look bad for how it was handled.
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For the record, I think your wife’s prayers are being answered and you are under conviction by the bery God you claim not to believe in. He loves you and died for you and is ANGRY at you for your sins against Him (Psalms 7:11) and your rejection of all the light He has shined on you.
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I’m praying for you as well and I’d be honored to answer any questions and lead to to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ over the phone. Call anytime.
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Saul was a great hater of God’s children then he “saw the light” got saved (Acts 9) and became one of the greatest evangelists ever. I’m praying that God gets your attention by whatever means necessary and that you do great things for His Kingdom!

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I’m free to talk now.

I will NOT share anything with anyone unless you ok it.
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Kent Hovind

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Mark Drysdale to Kent Hovind

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Kent you posted about what a great time the family had and how they are going to come back they had so much fun.

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Then you went on to turn it into a attack on Baty and five seconds after that you told more families to come on down and do some fishing on your lakes, rounding off the short section on asking for money!

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Kent I have no idea who your God is or how the hell you think its OK to send a family home with their son in a body bag and say “you all come back you hear ” and “they had a great time and can’t wait to return”.

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As far as the father I can give a xxxx if he thinks your comment and actions were just fine. They weren’t!

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This is what is wrong with religion and the reason rational people like myself run from the evil of your religion. I’m sure in some imaginary belief that poor man justifies it with he’s in a better place!

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He’s not. He is in a bloody ground dead because he was born into some delusional family he loses 80 years of life, but who am I; just an atheist that wants to sin and disobey God, Right?

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No.

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So here’s the deal.

Your little compound is dangerous and having signs up saying “at own risk” doesn’t help children that can barely read if their parents are stupid and are running around high on Jesus.

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For the father to dismiss this as OK is simply disgusting. Your clear lack of admission of any responsibility is simply disgusting. I have heard you say many times if it turns out there is no God you have lost nothing.  Well that’s fine.  How about the kids these people kill by denying medical attention vaccines, proper care?

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Because God’s got the wheel, what do they have to lose.

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Kent I am asking the entire Atheist community to boycott debating you in the name of your latest victim.

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Like I said Kent, a sign doesn’t replace reasonably when it comes to a 7 year old child !!!! .

“Lies of the Devil” tried to warn everyone.  I guess some people will never see straight. Maybe put up some pictures to warn kids that are to young to read.

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Kent Hovind to Mark Drysdale

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1. The family did have a great time other than the tragedy and they do intend to come back often and support the ministry.

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2. Baty had 3 followers until he began attacking me. He’s a drama queen and looking for attention. He doesn’t care about the boy drowning nor the family but rejoices in any chance to attack me to cover for the evil behavior of his employer in my case.
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3. $ it does take $ to operate and our ministry survives and expands on donations. If you don’t want to give then don’t. Do you chide atheist channels the monetize their videos? We don’t monetize ours.

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4. I know you have no idea Who our God is and both your wife and I are praying that you will meet Him and receive His offer of forgiveness before you face Him and Judge.
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5. You think you are a rational person yet you believe all the matter in the universe was in a dot!? You believe all life forms came from a rock disolved in water? You believe mosquitoes and whales share a common ancestor? You are as FAR from rational as it gets!
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6. We don’t have a “compound” but I’m sure you love trying to spread that lie. You also love to call people stupid because their 7 yr old drowned. 31 people drowned this year in the Florida panhandle. Are they stupid too? Do you chide Florida for not fencing off the ocean?
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7. The father did NOT dismiss it as ok. He’s hurting but what would propose he do differently now?
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8. My lack of responsibility? I wasn’t there. The dad was 10 feet away. The water was 4 feet deep. Our Pediatrician (Bethany Rife) was there in minutes and did CPR correctly till the ambulance arrived. You are the sick one to keep twisting the facts to try to make us look bad.
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9. 1100 college students commit suicide each year and 1.4 million Americans attempt suicide. The stupid evolution religion is at least partially responsible in my opinion. RU trying to work on that? There are 75 lies used to push that evolution lie on kids. Ru working to get them out of schools?
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10. You have broken God’s laws. Call

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Theodore (Theo) Valentine Valenzuela (“Lies of the Devil”) is advertising he will broadcast a YouTube program tomorrow dealing with Kent Hovind and the drowning of Steven Michael Alexander on Kent’s conpound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I2S_lyEcRI

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Hemant Mehta takes up the drowning as one of many subject he covered on his radio show around the 18:15 mark of:

https://soundcloud.com/friendly-atheist-podcast/ep-315-covid-19-and-bad-decision-making

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Theodore got his above referenced video on the drowning out early.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I2S_lyEcRI

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Update March 29, 2020

Phil Buni put out a video on the drowning the other day, and he spent some time therein talking about Kent making me part of the issue.

https://youtu.be/ykA694bMkqY?t=270

JustSome Geeky Guy also has a YouTube Video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDzo3SpB6_0

TellTale Podcast also posted this yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZS-kd9wRTA&t=146s

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Update March 30, 2020

The latest from Kent Hovind himself on the drowning!

https://youtu.be/ApeN7pNyzgg?t=580

A reminder as to how Kent views such things:

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Update March 31, 2020

https://youtu.be/niuWNpok_uw?t=114

https://www.facebook.com/nydia.rivera.587/videos/vb.1743739819/10202230244674573/?type=2&theater

Hemant Mehta also returns to the subject today at:

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/31/creationist-kent-hovind-on-boy-who-drowned-at-his-park-kids-do-dumb-things/

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Creationist Kent Hovind on Boy Who Drowned at His Park: “Kids Do Dumb Things”

MARCH 31, 2020
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(WARNING: The “text” which Kent mentions in the quote below was not sent to the deceased’s father, but to Mark Drysdale, the “idiot” mentioned by Kent in the beginning of those comments.  Watch for Hemant’s/Godless Engineer’s possible correction. – RLBaty)
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After a 7-year-old boy drowned at his “Dinosaur Adventure Land,” a low-grade Creationist theme park, Kent Hovind displayed what I thought was a heartless response when he said on his daily livestream that the boy’s siblings “had a blast here, and the dad wants to bring all the kids back and loves the place.”
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I was wrong. That was Hovind being nice. What he said on yesterday’s livestream was much, much worse.
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(snip graphic)
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“… I texted [the dad and] I said, “Do you
realize 21 people drowned — 31 people
drowned — in the panhandle of Florida
 so far this year?” What are you gonna
 do, put a fence around the ocean?
 Come on. It just happened. You try to
 avoid all that stuff but… what do you
 do, you know? Kids do dumb things
 once in a while. The dad’s thrilled
 with the ministry. Wants to come
 back. Gonna support us and all that.
 So tell the skeptics to shut up, get a life.”
Kent Hovind
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It should go without saying that, while kids do dumb things, they don’t usually get killed because responsible people take proper precautions. The panhandle of Florida may not need a fence, but a random pond in the middle of an unguarded theme park could use one.
Obviously, everything Hovind is saying about the father being so fine with everything that he’s going to keep supporting the ministry while texting with Hovind like they’re BFFs should be taken with a grain of salt since Hovind’s entire worldview is based on lies.
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Screenshot showing how Hemant chose to note the correction:

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If it be concluded that Steven Michael Alexander fell off of the pier, which had no railings, and drowned, it might be reasonably inferred that the proximate cause of the fall was the poor condition of the pier and Kent Hovind’s failure to properly maintain it.  He may have tripped on a board or stepped on a board that failed, causing the fall and possible bump on his head.  It might also be speculated that one of the other children pushed Steven, saw him go into the water, and quickly “ran”.  Others may or may not know the details of that, if that was it, and there may be a deliberate effort to cover up for the child who may have pushed Steven.

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Update April 1, 2020

https://youtu.be/e6eLCoj9ocI?t=515

“Raw Story” covers the drowning!

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/owner-of-creationist-theme-park-where-child-drowned-says-death-is-just-due-to-kids-doing-dumb-things/

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A better view of the alleged drowning site!

https://youtu.be/fQScp_VzciE?t=28

Another view from same video:

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Update April 2, 2020

Somewhat interesting exchange on Randall’s (Steven’s dad) FaceBook page at the following link:

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10218784892585745

Link to above-referenced video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cuFs_wRu0U

Link to above-referenced video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Uq09NOM6o

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Update April 3, 2020

Kent just broadcast his April 1, 2020 performance and, yes, he’s still promoting his false legal narrative just has he has promised to do for the rest of his life.

Time marked link to graphic below:

https://youtu.be/EY5VxOd-HtE?t=385

Link to thread where post below appears:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1506657029503421/

A few days after the death of Bill Ludlow, Kent had some comments regarding him as illustrated below, which incident may help to further illustrate Kent’s attitude towards such things and explain his lack of public interest/concern in the death of Steven Michael Alexander.  It might also be that Kent was upset that he wasn’t allowed to convert Bill Ludlow on his deathbed as Kent attempted to do as indicated by the post shown below which Kent sent to Bill’s son via Bill’s FaceBook page shortly before Bill died.

Time marked link to video and comments illustrated below:

Kent’s message to Bill Ludlow’s son:

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Update April 5, 2020

Ed Brayton talks about the drowning at Kent Hovind’s conpound at:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2020/04/04/hovind-blames-child-for-death-at-his-theme-park/

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Hovind Blames Child for Death at His Theme Park

Since getting out of prison, creationist fraud Kent Hovind has opened up another theme park, this time in Arkansas. Last month, a 7-year old drowned there and Hovind says that it was the child’s fault, that kids just do “dumb things” and that’s why he’s dead. He also says the boy’s father supports him despite what happened.

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“I texted [a Facebook user and] I said, ‘Do you realize 21 people drowned — 31 people drowned — in the
panhandle of Florida so far this year?’” Hovind said in an audio clip flagged by the Godless Engineer. “What are you gonna do, put a fence around the ocean? Come on.”…“It just happened. You try to avoid all that stuff but… what do you do, you know? Kids do dumb things once in a while.”

“The dad’s thrilled with the ministry. Wants to come back. Gonna support us and all that,” he added. “So tell the skeptics to shut up, get a life.”

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No word from the father yet, but given Hovind’s penchant for lying, I’m highly skeptical of that claim.

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Another new voice begins a discussion on the drowning!

https://www.facebook.com/lisa.butterfield.125/posts/2715255368597613

And another new voice opines!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1508667302635727/

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Update April 18, 2020

A new YouTube discussion of the drowning!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JS8XB-vipI

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Update May 4, 2020

Looks like Kent may have added a nominal safety feature near his dock/pier, in response to the drowning at that location.

https://www.facebook.com/pastorsctaite/videos/1435054653340581/

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Update May 18, 2020

This video was broadcast today and deals, in part, with Steven’s drowning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34fRTHsaIwc

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Update May 19, 2020

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10219248150966915&set=a.10202402821764213&type=3&theater

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Update May 25, 2020

Kent’s former IT guy, Theodore Valentine Valenzuela, posted another live broadcast tonight where he discusses various issues with “Steve” from Kent’s conpound.  This “Steve” is NOT the “Steve” that now does Kent’s IT work.  One of the issues involves the drowning.  Go to the link for the full video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ULUsKdR7E

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Update May 27, 2020

I have posted an article at the following link which includes the full text of the video above, as transcribed by me (Robert Baty).  I will continue to edit the text.  I wanted, however, to get the text posted as soon as possible.

http://kehvrlb.com/theo-steve-the-drowning-etc

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Update May 29, 2020

It appears Steven’s death was almost followed by another death a month later, according to testimony in one of Theo’s broadcasts today.

https://youtu.be/mOisMxV51sg?t=465

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Update May 30, 2020

A lawyer looks at the drowning of Steven Alexander!

https://www.drowningaccidentsattorney.com/drowning-accidents-blog/2020/march/7-year-old-drowns-at-dinosaur-adventure-land/

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7-Year-Old Drowns at Dinosaur Adventure Land

By The Doan Law Firm

7-Year-Old Drowns at Dinosaur Adventure Land

With the arrival of warmer weather, as well as the COVID-19 epidemic, many families will be searching for recreational activities for themselves and their children. In many cases, families will opt for day trips to theme parks and summer camps that combine “summer fun” with religious education in the parent’s chosen beliefs. Unfortunately, some such amusement centers and camps will save money by “cutting corners” with regard to common sense safety. In today’s post the drowning accident lawyer at The Doan Law Firm reports on a recent drowning death at a religious-themed park

The Accident

According to online sources a 7-year-old boy drowned earlier this month at “Dinosaur Adventure Land,” a small pro-creationism amusement venue in Monroe County, Alabama operated by Kent “Dr. Dino” Hovind through his Creation Science Evangelism organization. A news item appearing in the Monroe Journal reported that the child apparently fell unnoticed from a dock adjacent to a small pond on the property and drowned in 3 feet of water. The same article reports that, although lifejackets were available near the accident site, the victim was not wearing a personal flotation device when his body was discovered. The Journal also noted that no lifeguards were on duty at the time of the accident.

Negligence often leads to drowning accidents

If the online and Journal reports are true, it would appear that Dinosaur Adventure Land could be held liable for this child’s death on the grounds that Dinosaur Adventure Land was grossly negligent in
1) not having a trained lifeguard on duty,
2) failure to monitor the activities of visitors (especially children) when near water,
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3) failure to provide adequate training in water safety for staff and volunteers. These liability issues, and others, are discussed in the following sections.

Premises liability

As we have noted in other posts, it is a well-established principle of law that the owner of a property is responsible for the consequences of any accidental injuries occurring on that property. In law, this is known as the doctrine of premises liability and is generally accepted by the courts of every state. Since the accident happened on property controlled by Dinosaur Adventure Land, the owners of that property could be held liable in a wrongful death lawsuit.

Failing to have a lifeguard on duty

Any theme park or recreation area that borders on water should have someone, preferably a trained lifeguard on duty to monitor visitors who venture near ponds, streams, and rivers. If such an individual is not present and a drowning accident occurs, the absence of a lifeguard would most likely be interpreted as negligence.

Failure to monitor visitors

Any recreation venue is responsible for keeping an eye on the activities of its visitors to reduce that possibility that a visitor could be accidentally injured. If a facility fails to provide adequate supervision of its guests, or fails to provide adequate training for its staff and volunteers, such failure could well be interpreted as negligence.

Failure to train staff and volunteers

According to its website, Dinosaur Adventure Land actively recruits volunteers by stating “Help out for the day, stay for the week, or see if a longer-term volunteer position is the right fit. Free RV and camper hook-ups for volunteers on a first-come-first-serve basis, as well as limited cabin space.” In doing so, Dinosaur Adventure Land is legally and morally obligated to provide safety training for those volunteers as well as its paid staff employees. If it can be shown that Dinosaur Adventure Land failed to provide such training, it could be seen as evidence of negligence.

Visit at your own risk” and waivers of liability

Even though Dinosaur Adventure Land did not charge admission it did imply that, by notifying visitors that they (visitors) were responsible for their own conduct, the facility could not be sued. In general, the courts have rejected such claims on the basis that the right to claim damages following an accidental injury is a fundamental human right of every citizen.
Therefore, since a fundamental right cannot be waived under any circumstance, these warnings are no defense in a lawsuit alleging negligence.

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Update June 5, 2020

So, it appears the coverup is continuing as Randall works to cover up his own negligence as part of the effort to protect his financial settlement from Kent Hovind. No mention of the non-disclosure agreement or just how they were taken care of (i.e., that alleged meeting with Kent and his lawyer right after the drowning instead of meeting with DHR officials investigating the incident).

https://youtu.be/QtWguEFTt6E?t=425

Fixed It!

https://youtu.be/QtWguEFTt6E?t=425

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Update June 19, 2020

Randall Alexander, Jr. returns to Kent’s conpound, but it is not clear if he has the wife and 4 surviving children with him.

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10219524060984493

Steven’s mother tells us what they are planning to do at Kent’s conpound this trip!

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10219520702300528

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Update June 20, 2020

So it begins!

Kent has long talked of completing work on his pier, and it appears the drowning of Steven Alexander gave him a reason to complete the project under the guise of calling it the Steven Alexander Memorial.

Looks like they even did a drowning re-enactment as part of the building project.

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Update June 21, 2020

Was this planned?  It seems the Alexander family has already left Kent’s conpound before the memorial project was anywhere near completion.  They seem to have got up and left before being able to listen to Kent’s Sunday sermon.  Was there a falling out with Kent?  Are they planning to return and help complete the project.  What’s up with all of that?

Not sure what to make of this!

https://www.facebook.com/Bowlinprof/posts/10220713991627241

Meanwhile, the Alexanders get closer to home!

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Update June 22, 2020

Seems that, since the Alexanders left early Sunday morning, Kent, in his Sunday morning performance, couldn’t even remember their names.

https://youtu.be/f276kg_pmlU?t=1335

The following might support the opinion of some that there has been a concerted effort to cover up for the negligence of Randall Alexander and Kent Hovind which led to the drowning of Steven Alexander.

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10219535957601901

PJ added the following:

A meme from Margaret; seems to fit here!

https://www.facebook.com/margaret.j.alexander/posts/10157497417002333

Looks like Kent is getting his money’s worth out of the Alexanders; parents of Steven Alexander (age 7) who drowned at KENT HOVIND’s conpound, as a result of the negligence on the part of Randall and negligence on the part of KENT HOVIND.

Randall and Margaret have now blocked me from their FaceBook pages. Randall, like Margaret, has scrubbed his page or made secret much of it.

However, curiously enough, Randall has added 2 more threads to his page promoting Kent Hovind.

 

Link to Randall’s page:

Link to Margaret’s page:

https://www.facebook.com/margaret.j.alexander

 

Link to one of Randall’s most recent pro-Hovind threads:

 

Link to another of Randall’s recent pro-Hovind threads:

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10219563734696311

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Update June 25, 2020

Progress continues on Kent Hovind’s long ago planned gazebo on his pier on his conpound near Lenox, AL, and Randall J. Alexander, Jr. is keeping tabs on the progress:

https://www.facebook.com/randall.j.alexander.1/posts/10219576329171165

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Update July 7, 2020

https://youtu.be/8Ld_CLpjoco?t=405

 

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Comments

Drowning at Kent Hovind Conpound! — 5 Comments

  1. Most other preachers would at least pray or say something religious, but Hovind’s attidude is:
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    “Meh, shit happens, at least the rest
    of the family had a good time, they’ll
    probably come back”.
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    The guy is worse than a conman.
    He’s shown that his only talent is to be a contrarian (mainly an evolution and old earth science contrarian).
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    Now it’s obvious he has no human empathy.
    Other people are just a means to expand his pseudoscience business in the guise of religion and education.
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    He’s been gifted land, building material, vehicles, and lots of free labour and all because the credulous and ignorant uneducated Christians think he’s doing the work of god.

    • You are correct. Kent is a deviant conman out to gain money and control. He has no empathy for any of the human or animal life on his compound. His favorite saying is “kick every dog”, how awful is that for a human to say such things about animals, sounds like a psychopath to me.

      The poor family was so miss treated by Kent, he refused DHR to talk with them yet put them on the phone right away with his lawyer. He passed out flyers to this compound while he was at the hospital! He used the families time of sorrow as a way to advertise more. How shameful on his part.

      Many Christians, both young and old, are being sucked into this place, it is a shame to see all the people fall victim to his evil nature and control. He especially likes people who are financially troubled, as he will take them in, house them and feed them; then work them to the bone. They feel like they can’t leave because they would lose their ‘home’ and ‘income’. He grabs them and pulls them down. He knows what hes doing. Kent has no empathy whatsoever.

      When they do finally come to take him away, let’s hope it doesn’t result in a shoot out.

  2. The Doan Law Firm post on the drowned child was a very interesting read.
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    Good find!
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    I hope the family, as they come to finish their grieving, file a lawsuit against Kent. Sounds like any lawyer would be more then willing to take this case.

    • @t65rex
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      I would like to see the suit prosecuted, but as a practical matter I don’t think it’s going to happen.
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      The parents apparently got a settlement that satisfied them and if they did sue I am sure the defense would press hard on the father’s own negligence in not watching the kids closely enough.
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      I don’t know what the statute of limitations is, so I guess we can hold out some hope that they might yet change their minds.
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      Maybe the mother could sue individually and avoid some of that because she was not negligent in expecting her husband to watch the kids (so it could be argued).
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      Just some speculation on my part.
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      Maybe it’s over.
      Maybe not.
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      However, as far as Kent’s story is concerned, the drowning will always be a point worthy of consideration and criticism as to Kent and his operation of the conpound.
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