Watch for Updates

Originally Posted July 8, 2018
by Robert Baty

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Clickable Link to Mark’s Appearance with Kent Hovind:

https://youtu.be/TLZWcdoCNXo?t=4m

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Clickable Link to Mark Stoney FaceBook Page:

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441

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SUMMARY OF THE STORY

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Mark Stoney is a divorced thirty-something veteran who has custody of his 4 year old daughter and lived with his parents until the events referenced in this report.

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Mark and his parents lived near Birminghan, AL.  After a recent trip to the beach, Mark and his daughter planned to stop and visit Kent Hovind’s conpound near Lenox, AL.

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Instead of just visiting as intended, they stayed for 2-3 days before returning home and Kent featured Mark in his June 14, 2018 performance broadcast on YouTube and referenced above.

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At some point, Mark decided he wanted to take his daughter and go live with Kent on his conpound and was preparing to do so when his mother intervened and took custody of the child and Mark went to live with Kent on his own.

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Mark’s mother, as might be expected because of the incident, contacted various government agencies and quickly was able to file a petition for custody and have a protective order put into place.

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And so the battle lines were drawn as Mark has vowed to have custody of the child returned to him.

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It is not known how long Mark might stay with Kent.  Mark has recently “said” he was only intending to stay a month.  There is no reason to think the custody issue will be resolved within a month.  Otherwise, Mark has also quit his job and so has no job, no home.  For now, it appears Kent Hovind will be providing Mark meals and lodging in exchange for volunteer labor on his conpound.

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The child’s grandmother intervened because there was reason to believe the child would be in imminent danger in taking up residence at Kent Hovind’s conpound.

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This case might provide a framework for testing, judicially, whether or not Kent Hovind’s conpound is suitable for such a child as Mark Stoney’s.

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Kent Hovind’s conpound is currently a commercial construction site and Kent has boasted of his lack of insurance or care for the welfare of adults and children visiting.  Kent has placed warning signs at the property advising that there is no insurance and one “enters at his own risk”.

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Currently, there is a court hearing scheduled later in July and another at the end of August.

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Mark took his side of the story to FaceBook and published numerous individual threads promoting his version of the case.  When such was challenged on July 7 and 8 by me, after considerable discussion, Mark deleted that discussion; perhaps in consciousness of his guilt and the propriety of his mothers actions, or maybe it was because Kent Hovind or one of his handlers told Mark to delete it.

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Mark also seems to like firearms and somewhat like Kent seems to particular be fascinated by assault type weapons.  Mark may have one or more weapons with him at the present time.

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Mark’s taking his side of the case to social media, including the “tagging” of his mother in at least one FaceBook post, plus his possible possession of a firearm while under a protective order might have him in violation of the protective order and subject him to possible arrest at any time.

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Mark has indicated that the people at Kent’s conpound will vouch for him in court proceedings.

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That has yet to be confirmed.

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It is more likely, seems to me, that Kent will ask Mark to leave and not come back any time soon in order that Kent will not have to be called upon to establish his commercial construction site is suitable for a single parent with a 4 year old girl to care for.

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The story is evolving and, it seems to me, is one to watch.

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Update July 18, 2018

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There was a hearing on the case in Birmingham, AL and temporary custody remains with the grandparents.

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Today’s proceeding, as might be expected, was primarily to insure all things were in proper order and the case was prepared to move forward and that custody with the grandparents was justified and should be maintained for the time being.

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Another hearing to consider the merits of the custody issue and the protective order will be in a few weeks.

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Supervised visitation of the child with Mark Stoney, the father, was approved but details have to be worked out by the Court.

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The child was represented today by State counsel.  The grandparents were represented by private counsel.  Mark Stoney waived his right to an attorney.

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Nick Shunk ( https://www.facebook.com/nickshunk    ) accompanied Mark Stoney to the proceedings, but he was not allowed in the courtroom.  Nick is one of Kent Hovind’s “chosen ones” and he and his wife have been residents at Kent Hovind’s conpound for quite awhile, having left their criminal and drug past behind (well, maybe they did, maybe they didn’t).

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UPDATE July 20, 2018

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Mark posted the following cryptic comment to his FaceBook page; likely given to him by Kent Hovind or one of Kent’s people.

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Update July 25, 2018

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Mark Stoney enjoying DAL ATV Day without the burden of being a parent:

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https://youtu.be/MN793saVseM?t=1m41s

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Update July 28, 2018

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Mark Stoney enjoying not having to parent at Kent’s conpound!

https://youtu.be/0juLvrY5t3I?t=25m55s

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Update July 29, 2018

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Numerous comments to the above referenced thread on Mark’s FaceBook page at the following link.  The screenshot below reflects two posts I thought particularly noteworthy.

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https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/1932949970059522

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Update July 31, 2018

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The following was posted to the Mark Stoney FaceBook page in the current thread where Mark and others comment on the custody case.  Shawn’s post appears to have been quickly deleted instead of being given a response.

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Additional Documents in Stoney v. Stoney

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I guess the substance of the above is that supervised visitation was ordered pending the August 28, 2018 hearing, and the Court ordered the YWCA be used for supervised visitation.  However, the YWCA declined the case.  It’s now up to Mark Stoney to take action that might move the Court to order some alternative supervised visitation scheme.

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Update August 2, 2018

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It appears that Mark Stoney has just scrubbed his FaceBook page (address below) of postings dealing with his custody case, or hid them from public view or even “friend” view.

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https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441

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Update August 28, 2018

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Kent Hovind announced, without details, in his performance last night that he was going to Birmingham today, the day that there is a child custody hearing in the Stoney v. Stoney case.

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Kent has been reportedly seen at the courthouse where that hearing is to take place and has been seen kissing a woman.  So, it would seem that his reported 3rd wife, Cindi Lincoln, may be there as well.

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Rumors circulating at the courthouse indicate that the restraining order against Mark Stoney is to remain in effect at least until the next hearing, the child is to remain with the grandparents, and supervised visitations are to be arranged after “intake interviews”.

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Update September 19, 2018

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MARK STONEY in the KENT HOVIND news!
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(I hear that Mark Stoney was NOT a “marine”! It appears Kent gave him a promotion from being a “weekend warrior” to being a “marine”.)
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From the article:
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One of them is Mark Stoney, a Marine and combat veteran from the Birmingham area, who came to Dinosaur Adventure Land nearly three months ago and hasn’t left.
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Stoney found Hovind’s Bible studies on YouTube. He decided to visit Dinosaur Adventure Land in April, and brought his 4-year-old daughter. They stayed for three days.
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He came back home and told his parents, with whom they’d been living, that he felt called by God to go stay at Dinosaur Adventure Land for a month and volunteer there.
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“When I was here, it felt like family. They completely accepted me from the minute I walked in and it was great,” he said.
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He wanted to bring his daughter with him. His mother wouldn’t hear of it.
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“My mom made it out to be like I was just moving in with strangers and joining a cult.”
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The cult accusation is one that doesn’t seem to interest Hovind – he’s dismissive whenever it’s brought up – though it rankles his wife, Cindi. People come to Dinosaur Adventure Land, she said, because they’re trying to find something they can’t find other places.
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“They’re seeking how does the Bible reconcile with science,” she said. “It’s a big deal and he’s trying to help. That’s not a cult.”
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Stoney is still fighting for custody of his daughter, but he doesn’t plan to leave Dinosaur Adventure Land.
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“I want to stay now. I absolutely love this place, I love working here,” he said. “We’ve got people coming from Russia, from Ireland, from Mexico and Canada, from all over the world. Getting to meet all these people who are also in love with Christ, it’s a blessing.”
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Update September 20, 2018

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Mark Stoney replies to my report on my personal FaceBook page!

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https://www.facebook.com/robert.baty.1/posts/1586508694789145

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The above was followed up by the exchanges below via FaceBook Messenger!

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Mark Stoney joined my Hovind FaceBook group and posted many notes.  Here are two from the thread at the referenced link below that indicate that Mark and Kent have parted ways.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1072355299600265/

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Update November 11, 2018

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/2086904141330770

 

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Update November 12, 2018

 

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Interestingly, Cindi Lincoln, the woman some people think is now legally, civilly, on the record married to Kent Hovind, has posted a note to Mark Stoney’s FaceBook page in an unrelated thread:

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/2082176965136821

 

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Update November 15, 2018

 

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Update November 17, 2018

The following exchange took place after I posted the above graphic to my Hovind FaceBook page at the following link:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1105670032935458/

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From Mark Stoney

I gave all the details. You are lying and slandering my name.

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From Mark Stoney

I gave all the details. You are lying and slandering my name.

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney, you wrote:
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– “I gave all the details.
– You are lying and libeling my name.”
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I don’t recall you giving. any details, and what I posted certainly is (EDIT) NOT “lying or libelous”.
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If you think what I posted is “lying and/or libelous”, please provide the details as to what I posted that is a “lie or libel” and, if we agree, I will be glad to correct the record.

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From Mark Stoney

“Here’s a link to my article on the Stoney v. Stoney

custody case which arose because of Mark’s interest

in take his 4 year old daughter to stay with Kent Hovind

on Kent’s conpound for an indeterminate amount of time:”
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“Stay with Kent Hovind”
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False. I went to volunteer for CSE.
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“Kent hovind’s ‘conpound’”
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You’re made up word makes it seem as though I was up to something nefarious. Therefore damaging to my reputation.
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“Indeterminate amount of time”
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Also false due to the fact that I made it abundantly clear to all parties that I was going to volunteer for period of one month.
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I have taken a page out of your playbook and screenshot this post to use as evidence against you.

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From Mark Stoney

Also your admission that what you posted “certainly is ‘lying or libelous’”

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From Robert Baty

“Stay with Kent” is equivalent to “volunteer for CSE”.
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Some use the term “conpound” because Kent is an ex-con and various folk who have come and gone and remain are likewise.
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“One month” or “indeterminate”. I will be glad to note your claim that you intended to stay only a month, which, as it turns out and I recall, lasted more than a month.
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I can live with the screenshot, Mark Stoney.
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I don’t mind being corrected where appropriate, and being wrong doesn’t make something a “lie and/or libelous”.
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Now, back to those details that remain missing:
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What is it you are alleged to have done back in July that resulted in you being charged with violating the order or protection?
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I am not asking for your plea, I am asking for what the charge specifically is; the one that apparently was not discovered until more recently and which resulted in the charge being filed against you?
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Please, Mark, be specific.
Repetition is good, but I don’t think you were clear on what actually led to the charge being made.

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From Robert Baty

Related thread in this group:
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1103222426513552/
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(excerpt)
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– “2 weeks ago I discovered that my mother had
– sworn out a warrant for my arrest claiming domestic
– violence. Which is another lie as I have had zero
– contact with her since being served with the PFA.
– I turned myself in and bonded right out but have
– yet to be given a court date to address the matter.
– I’m sure it’s a strategic move on their part as the
– hearings for the pfa and custody are just weeks
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— Mark Stoney
— November 12, 2018
— 5:26 AM MT
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Maybe we’ll just have to wait, Mark, if you are not yet even informed as to the specifics of the charge.

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From Mark Stoney

But you said I gave no details…

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From Robert Baty

Really, Mark Stoney, that’s what you want to quibble over?
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If you want to argue that quote is “details”, I can argue it has “no details” and that your claim to have provided “all details” was more wrong than my characterization.
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However, I would prefer something more substantive, but I am not going to try and drag it out of you.
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You can fill in the details, or not.

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From Mark Stoney

Robert Baty what more do you want to know? She swore out a warrant claiming I violated the pfa that I had not yet been served with.

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney, I think you know, but I am not going to try and drag it out of you, like I said.

I gotta go now.

Maybe later we’ll have more to discuss about it.

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From Mark Stoney

You think I know? Why would I be asking you if I knew what you wanted out of me? My mother is grasping at straws because she knows she’s going to lose temporary custody of my daughter. She has gone as far as to have me arrested. What a wonderful mother she is!!

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From Mark Stoney

And for clarification, the “domestic violence” my mother claims is that I “threatened my father in front of the sheriff”. The sheriff that I called when she violently kidnapped my child. I never threatened anyone. And if I had, don’t you think the deputy would have arrested me? Or at the very least made mention of it in his report?

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney
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Something doesn’t seem quite right here, and, in part, it’s because you have not provided the “details”; whether or not you even know what they are.
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You asked:
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– “What more do you want to know?”
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A copy of the warrant/complaint would be nice, for starters.
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Maybe it documents what the actual alleged violation was, and the date.
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You make it sound like your mother filed a complaint a couple of weeks ago, but upon a closer reading it seems to me it may be the case that the violation was noted last summer when the warrant was issued and they just didn’t bother to try and arrest you or get you to turn yourself in while you were “living with Kent” or otherwise somewhere unknown.
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If you don’t know what is happening in your case, you might even check with your attorney, if you have one, or the court clerk, and find out what is going on as to any upcoming events designed to work toward resolving your alleged violation.

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From Mark Stoney

I never saw the warrant. I don’t know what it alleges. But I can assume it has to do with the innocuous messages I sent my mother, the last of which was sent on the 6th. I was served with the pfa on the 9th, and she swore out the warrant for my arrest on the 10th. I didn’t find out about the warrant despite having been to court twice, meeting with the DA, talking to several sheriff’s deputies, and gathering documents from the actual sheriff’s department. My former attorney even looked up to see if i had any warrants and found nothing at the time. I had him do that because my mother’s attorney insisted that I should be arrested during the hearings. It wasn’t until about 3 weeks ago when I started a new job that my boss, a police officer with access to special lists of warrants that I was informed of it. He told me that it was unusual in that it wasn’t in the normal database or whatever and even if I had been pulled over and had my info run it likely wouldn’t have come up. My grandmother had suggested that the reason the law wasn’t interested in coming to DAL concerning me was that my mother had told her they were afraid of another Waco incident. Seems like a ridiculous assumption especially considering that several local deputies and other LEO’s have visited DAL and have a great rapport with Dr. Hovind and the staff. What I see happening is my mother trying absolutely everything imaginable to make me appear to be a complete reprobate and incapable of caring for my daughter so that she can assume her desperately desired role as her mother. I’m glad I found out about the warrant when I did because if she had produced it in the upcoming proceedings, no doubt the judge would have found it difficult if not impossible to award custody to me having a warrant for “violating a domestic violence protection order”. Which is another absurdity in and of itself considering I never acted violently towards anyone. Even her false claim of me making threats towards my father can be easily refuted due to the fact that she SWORE UNDER OATH that I “threatened him in front of the deputies”. Had I actually done that, I would have been arrested on the spot. I was not. At the very least, deputy Avery would have made mention of it in his report, which he did not.
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What I don’t understand is why you, Robert Baty, and your minions are so hastily prepared to make me out to be a bad father, undeserving of the honor and gift of raising a godly young child when all the evidence points to my mother, a woman with a history of mental instability and literal psychosis is abusing the system to satisfy her perceived need to relive her maternal years through MY child.
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This will all be over with in a matter of weeks, and you’re gonna feel real silly when all your hard work to discredit and defame my good name is for naught.

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney
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Thanks for that further analysis, but it indicates that “we” will likely have to wait for the facts (i.e., details) to be revealed; if they ever are.
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You mention a “former attorney” but don’t seem to say anything about having a current attorney or doing anything to find out the official claims in your case or what is to become of it.
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My “win” in your case has already been guaranteed, and I don’t mean to make light of the seriousness of your problem(s).
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I have, thanks to Kent Hovind and his sovcit sidekick Brady Byrum, been following/reporting, to some extent, on child welfare/family court cases for a couple of years. Apart from individual cases, it is a very big societal/governmental issue and the problems are not susceptible to easy resolution.
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The child welfare systemt/people are condemned for taking children, whether justified or not, and for returning children to parents, whether justified or not. Almost daily, if not daily, you can find cases where children have been returned to parents who go on to kill the child, or they kill the child before the child is taken even when the child welfare people have been involved in the case. Lots of other unfortunate cases in between.
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Perhaps you are familiar, or can Google, some of the cases I have been involved in watching/reporting.
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Of course, “Baby Holm” is the #1 and the one Kent’s man Brady was working so hard, secretly, and his antics worked; the parents rights were terminated and the child adopted into a permanent home. The people of Helfin, AL love me for my work on that case and in helping save Baby Holm and keeping Kent’s sovcit sorts from invading their community.
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To a lesser extent there is the Raymond Schwab case, the Amy Charron case, the Shara Michelle case, the Lydia Hubbel case, and the Lee Kenworthy case.
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Maybe your case will soon be over, Mark, and your family will move on without any further custody disputes or involvement by any child welfare agencies/employees.
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As I indicated, I “win” either way your case goes. Your child was appropriately placed with your parents in response to the risk to the child had you been allowed to take her to live with Kent Hovind on a commercial construction project site for an extended period of time and amongst strangers of questionable character and background.
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The future is not guaranteed either way.
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One thing I have learned the last couple of years in following some of these cases, Mark, is that it really doesn’t take that much to convince the Court that you should have custody of your child (for better or worse).
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Maybe you will do that.
Maybe you won’t.
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We will see.

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From Mark Stoney

Robert Baty you win nothing. You don’t have a dog in my fight. You’re being paid to disrupt Dr. Hovind’s ministry and your obsession with me has no effect on that cause. You’re targeting me for fun or spite, I don’t know what, but CSE will go on with or without me. That’s a fact. Why don’t you buzz off and get a life? I will get my daughter back and I will raise her how I see fit, without interference from overzealous family members who don’t care to get the full story before making rash decisions. You say my child was appropriately placed with my parents, but refuse to acknowledge the lies and corrupt dealings my mom had to use to steal her from me. I get it, you hate Kent. You hate everything he stands for. You saw me as an opportunity to harm him, but you failed to realize or simply don’t care who you hurt in the process. Again, I was never going to “live” with Kent as you say. People volunteer for ministries all the time, and they bring their kids with them. People even raise kids in foreign mission fields. It’s our right as Americans to do so. You think you’re all high and mighty because you stand against creationism, but let me tell you something buddy, one day your knee will bow and tongue confess that Christ Jesus is Lord of all.

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney, you now write:
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– “You’re being paid to disrupt Dr. Hovind’s
– ministry and your obsession with me has
– no effect on that cause.”
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Please advise whoever it is you think is paying me to do what I do that I am not getting the checks. I can use that money. Please help me find out where all that errant money is going so I can redirect it into my account.
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Mark, as I suggested in my earlier comments, you simply don’t seem to appreciate or understand the significance of your case in the “bigger picture” of the very big societal/government issue raging in some quarters over how family court/child welfare matters should be conducted.
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Like others who I associate with, “we” tend to concentrate on cases that appear to have justified the actions taken by family courts/child welfare folks while the parents affected go nuts whining (like you) about intervention.
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No one disputes there is room for improvement.
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More later.
My wife is dragging me to grocery store.

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From Mark Stoney

Robert Baty I could only assume that you are being paid to harass Dr. Hovind as I have alluded to it numerous times without so much as a denial from you. But if you’re not doing this for the money, then what’s the deal? Do you derive some sort of sick pleasure from this? You constantly twist facts and insert your own opinion to make me look bad but never so much as question my mother’s motives. What about the countless other families who take their children to DAL and volunteer just as I did? What about the children that currently live there? You don’t seem to care about any of them. Why me? Why is it that you are so cool with my mother violently kidnapping my child and using her connections and lies to keep me away? This is obviously way beyond me taking her to DAL as I have been away from there for months and she STILL is keeping my child from me. You complain about the courts getting it wrong, but when faced with the facts of my case, you still say my mother’s past and present actions are justified. Could you be any more contradictory?

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From Robert Baty

Before considering your latest, Mark Stoney, let me finish some of what I have to say about your previous post.
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You wrote:
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– “You say my child was appropriately placed
– with my parents, but refuse to acknowledge
– the lies and corrupt dealings my mom had
– to use to steal her from me.”
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The record shows that she was appropriately removed from your custody, Mark. We are still waiting to hear to “rest of the story” from the family who ran from Kent’s conpound after that reported attempted abduction of their child. Who knows how many other stories Kent has managed to effectively silence!
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Mark, why don’t you try to find another case where a young, single father with a toddler like yours, was challenged by his family when he was planning to take the kid and move onto a commercial construction site with “creepy” characters all around, and the Court said, “that’s fine, the man gets to take his daughter and go”.
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Part of the problem in such cases is the privacy restrictions that surround the cases. Regardless of what your parents may or may not have done, the Court appears to have been prepared to remove the child from your custody for reasons stated. If you think your parents are not fit to care for her, what are you doing to have the Court place custody with someone else pending a resolution of your claim for custody?
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No rash decisions, as far as I can tell, in this matter, except for yours (i.e., wanting to drag your 4 year old to live on a constructions site with “creepy” characters all around).

“High & mighty” is a characterization more appropriately assigned to your behavior and even more so Kent’s.
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If you want to know about “hate”, just try getting Kent Hovind to face me like he has so many others and discuss his legal and related issues. That he continues to refuse will tell you something about how deep his “hatred” runs towards me; despite all the free publicity I have been able to drum up for his operations over the last few years.
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Mark, you are a late-comer to the Hovind story. I have been incessantly accused of being a “paid disinformation agent” in what I do. I have played along to some extent. (why not, it’s not like Kent and his people are concerned with the truth). I get accused of many things and don’t always take the time to be diverted into chasing the rabbits.
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Like so many, I was enticed with promises to engage in social media, and so I have done so with reference to various hobbies of mine. It’s quite common, Mark.
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I am not being contradictory, Mark.
You just have trouble demonstrating that you “get it”.
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We’ll see where your case goes and how what happens/happened fits into the popular public debate over family courts and child welfare issues.

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Mark and I picked it up again in another thread where I mentioned Lee Kenworthy and noted the connection of that case to Mark’s case.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1106718196163975/

From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney
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This is the same Lee Kenworthy I mentioned earlier.
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Back on Memorial Day 2018 someone, apparently, called in about his kids and he and his girlfriend set up a stand-off with authorities.
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Guess what!
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They took his kids and took him to the “funny farm”.
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Reportedly, his kids wound up with his mother, and, as I recall, he quit bad mouthing his momma since she started raising his kids for him.
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Supposedly, he’s a great father like you claim to be and is working on getting his kids back.
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Like you, Lee and his people don’t like my coverage of the case.

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From Mark Stoney

Robert Baty I couldn’t care less about this case as it has zero to do with me. I was never in any sort of conflict with authorities. As I’ve said before, my daughter was violently kidnapped from me and my mother used lies and her influence as a fire chief to levy the court’s authority against me in my case. The court did not remove my child from my custody, my mother and father did that outside of a court order to do so. The court’s decision to grant temporary custody AFTER THE FACT was based on lies and the false assumption that I was restrained from contact with my daughter due to the pfa. My own ignorance of who the pfa included (only my mother) is partly to blame as well, which I can also credit to inadequate representation by my former attorney who did not even show up for my hearings despite taking my money-which he kept and dismissed himself from representing me when I complained about his lack of services.

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From Robert Baty

Your case, Mark Stoney, has a lot to do with the Lee Kenworthy story, whether you like it or not, admit to it or not.
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I know the story you tell about how your parents came to have custody of the child.
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I don’t believe your version, and, so far, you haven’t been providing any documentation; just the tales you tell.
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I do believe you mother took physical custody of the child against your wishes and the Court determined that she was a proper person to have legal and physical custody under the circumstances.
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Maybe you can post that document wherein the Court made its evaluation of the facts and the law before reaching its conclusion.
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Also, despite repeated opportuntiies, you haven’t said what your current situation is regarding representation.
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Have you asked Brady, or Ernie for their common-law legal advice?
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Someone else?
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Are you planning on going it alone now?
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What’s up with that?
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You seem to be really uninformed as to the details!

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From Mark Stoney

I have no idea who lee kenworthy is nor do I care. You don’t have to believe my side of the story and honestly, I don’t care about that either as you have clearly already made up your own. I mean, who even are you? A nobody with a small following of devout sycophants incapable of thinking for themselves. (And you call CSE a cult) you can assume whatever you want, but you weren’t there nor are you personally involved, so who is more credible? Yeah, I’m going with me.
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Anyhow, yes I have an attorney, and he’s a good one too. You must not be much of a “reporter” if you couldn’t figure that one out on your own as it is public record. And you say I’m uninformed of the details.. is that a joke or something? I’m living the details. You’re just upset because the truth I have been telling doesn’t coincide with your fantasy and desire for my case to cause harm to Kent Hovind.

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From Robert Baty

If you want to have a credibility contest, Mark Stoney, we might be able to work something out; or even a poll.
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I predict that any such effort will result in another victory for me, with a wide margin.
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You are like so many of my subjects; always telling tales and making claims and giving us good reason to doubt your version of events.
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I am not upset.
I am enjoying another victory lap.
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If you can’t bring yourself to be more open and honest about the matter, “we” can just wait and see what develops.
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Another prediction: no Court will ever rule that the child’s placement with your mother was wrong or that her taking physical custody away from you was wrong.

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From Mark Stoney

Robert Baty yeah go ahead and claim victory by whatever means suit you. Im sure your ego needs it. A good reporter knows the right questions to ask. Which you seem to fail at every turn. That makes you a troll. Plain and simple. Lucky for you I enjoy tormenting trolls of all sorts. It’s kind of a hobby of mine. And as far as your “predictions” you don’t have a very good track record concerning me. But good luck. You’re going to need it!

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From Robert Baty

Mark Stoney
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Seems you don’t know how to keep score either!
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I can wait and watch and tally up the points later; if I stay with your case till the custody matter might be resolved……….at least as to present circumstances.
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The current score has me way ahead of you.
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You have also made it clear you either don’t have the relevant information or aren’t about to reveal it.
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Thanks for the continuing demonstration, Mark.

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Update December 8, 2018

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/2123685817652602

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Update December 11, 2018

http://kehvrlb.com/mark-stoney-kent-hovind-child-welfare

 

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Update January 31, 2019

Link to GoFundMe

https://www.gofundme.com/bxymu-help-me-get-my-daughter-back

 

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Update Februry 18, 2019

Mark Stoney now accusing his parents of child abuse!

 

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UPDATE March 4, 2019

Mark’s attitude does not seem to be improving.  Go to link to his page for comments following opening post.

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/2256446201043229

 

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Update June 13, 2019

PACER is like a box of chocolates too.  You never know what you might find when you go to browsing names you are familiar with and have an interest in.

So, it appears Mark Stoney thought it a good idea to try and file a federal suit against his parents.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Like in the Holm case, involving a similarly frivolous federal filing, the federal court in Alabama quickly dismissed the case.

Following links are to files containing the substantive documents; the Complaint, the Reassignment, and the Dismissal.

Stoney-Federal-Complaint-05172019

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Stoney Reassignment Order 05202019

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Stoney Federal Dismissal 05172019

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Update June 30, 2019

Sounds like Mark is getting some unsupervised time with his child.  Maybe he can further advance the case to the point of having custody returned to him; maybe not.

 

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Update August 14, 2019

https://www.facebook.com/groups/KentHovindMMM/permalink/2681681655231451/

 

It is being reported (see above) that Mark Stoney has been given custody of his now 5-year old daughter.  He has never had to be concerned about caring for the child 24-7 and it has yet to be reported what is now going on with all of that and what Mark’s plans for the near and long-term future hold.

Has Mark taken the child and returned to Kent Hovind’s conpound near Lenox, AL?  If not, will he?  If so, to what end; short term/long term?

This story may not yet be over, and the child’s welfare may be a continuing issue subject to future dispute.

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Update August 16, 2019

Further evidence that Mark Stoney has returned to Kent’s conpound with his 5-year old daughter, Mackenzie:

https://youtu.be/d7tdh9Yr8Qs?t=1080

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Update August 22, 2019

More evidence that Mark Stoney and his 5 year old daughter, Mackenzie, have returned to live with Kent Hovind on his conpound!

https://youtu.be/ylL2coK8Sb0?t=115

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Update August 24, 2019

It appears that Mark Stoney has been featured in a couple of Kent’s performances recently, as show below.  It’s not conclusive, but circumstantial evidence that Mark and his daughter have returned to living with Kent Hovind.

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Update August 28, 2019

The following exchange has taken place between Mark and me (the first post from Mark was previously reported in the above-referenced thread) via FaceBook Messenger:

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From: Mark Stoney August 25, 2019

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Nice try with the whack-a-mole stock photo. Wanna see my tattoos? 📷 dude, you really are an obsessive creep. Even your atheist cohorts agree. Give it a rest, batty, as I commandeered your “victory” lap. (Because I won) aka YOU LOSE. You get NOTHING. Except exposed as the obsessive creep that you are.

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From: Robert Baty August 28, 2019

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I had not planned to respond, but had a little extra time and thought I would go ahead and do so. Your daughter was protected for a year. You got custody back, but it’s to soon to tell whether or not that is a win for you. I notice that, despite your apparent return to live with Kent, you have not made any live appearances, with your daughter, in any of Kent’s videos and bragging about your victory. Yours is still a story to watch. Maybe you will make it as a parent to your daughter. Maybe not.

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From: Mark Stoney August 28, 2019

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That rant just goes to show how ignorant and biased you are. My daughter was never “protected” from me, but rather, illegally held captive from for 14 months.

The dependency case was dismissed because they failed to meet the burden of proof for their claims. It was a complete travesty that it took as long as it did to return her to me, but ultimately the judge had “no choice but to dismiss”. I didn’t even have to take the stand in trial as their case was so flimsy and their testimony contradictory.

Of course you never mention the victory I also had in the violation of the PFA case months prior. That judge was even more harsh by saying that I would have been justified in using my firearms against my mother as she was kidnapping my daughter.

Not something I would have done due to my beliefs, but legally, according to her, I could have.

As for the protection order, it is still in effect. But it is dead in the water, as it was only ever used to prevent me from returning to my parents house to regain physical custody of my daughter, (whom I still had legal custody of for over a month) as well as pressure the dependency judge into granting my mother temporary custody.

They had to lie to get that point across when they insisted that I was restrained from contact with my daughter despite the only person named on the order being my mother.

What’s more, the original judge that signed off on the PFA has since been removed from the bench due to his propensity to “rubber stamp” petitions filed by county officials. It is unclear whether or not he is being prosecuted.

But this new judge is thorough and unbiased.

Were you ever aware of my mother’s additional filings with DHR? Probably not as they hastily closed that case due to a “lack of evidence for neglect or abuse”. That information would have benefited my case over a year ago, but slipped through the cracks because the caseworker who conducted the investigation resigned shortly after it was closed and left no instructions to inform me or the courts.

As for my federal filing, which you so gleefully “reported” on, it was dismissed WITHOUT prejudice, meaning it can (and will) be revisited.

They did that to allow time for the family court cases to play out.

Once the final case is won, (and it certainly will be) that will be re-filed with clear proof that I was right all along, and my constitutional rights were indeed violated.

Yes, I have won.

Although it is a bittersweet victory as my parents have yet to even attempt reconciliation with me. They are now bitter and vindictive as they returned my child without so much as a clean pair of underwear! (Such caring grandparents).

I intend to add you as a co-conspirator, and I believe that I can as some of the information you have made public on your blog points to not only communication, but also sharing of confidential court documents between yourself and my parents.

And you subsequently making them public.

You can expect lis pendens in the coming months.

That being said, I would still ask that you scrub your blog of any references to me and my daughter as I already have screenshots of every single word and document, as well as our correspondence.

Who knows, maybe I’ll forget you ever existed and move forward without you being a defendant..

Your a loser, batty, and a sore one at that.

I have no need to gloat publicly as my validation has already been accomplished. I’m not sure such an ego-driven manchild such as yourself can understand that, but I am content to pick right back up where I left off 14.5 months ago.

You can squirm and cry all you want, but the writing is on the wall. I have done no wrong in this matter, and have been fully vindicated.

Once again, YOU LOSE!

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From: Robert Baty August 28, 2019

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Between the last 2 posts above, Mark, you get the prize for having presented a “rant”.

Me, expect a lis pendens from you.

That’s an interesting threat! What, are you suing me in Brady’s and Paul’s Denny’s Common Law Court?

That’s rhetorical, Mark.

Like I said, yours is a case to watch and as you have noted in your “rant’, you are far from done with it.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Update September 3, 2019

In today’s broadcast Kent Hovind takes another swipe at the parents of Mark Stoney.  Time marked link to Kent’s comments:

https://youtu.be/q_JMopFpL08?t=165

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Update September 17, 2019

Time marked link to start of comments:

https://youtu.be/WJjeKLnODPg?t=327

https://youtu.be/WJjeKLnODPg?t=1505

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Update November 23, 2019

Looks like the child’s mother was arrested again in Jefferson County, AL.  It is not clear what the current status of her case is.

Update November 29, 2019

Looks like Mark and his daughter area still living with Kent Hovind on the conpound.

https://youtu.be/i3GNmAYP7u4?t=4670

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Update December 30, 2019

Kent’s exploitation of Mackenzie Stoney in a continuing effort to insult her grandparents is evident again in this recent broadcast of one of his debates.

Time marked link to Kent’s comments:

https://youtu.be/VXFojsRxJLg?t=3430

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Update January 1, 2020

Link to Kent’s January 1, 2020 broadcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-D8abMquM

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Update January 3, 2020

Kent continues to exploit Mackenzie Stoney and use her to also needle her grandparents, aunts, and uncles, among others.

https://youtu.be/59S_NsdzY84?t=250

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Update January 16, 2020

https://youtu.be/lr2FHaYeBvU?t=143

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Update February 9, 2020

Seems today that Kent and Mark are again taking a sneaky little poke at Mark’s parents by featuring Kenzie in the graphic generated from the link for today’s video where she is not actually in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCNh_LDQ5w

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Update February 20, 2020

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Update February 21, 2020

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1469088776593580/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxblQts-VY

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Update April 6, 2020

Another case to watch!  It is not known who the new subject is or whether he will decide on an extended stay with Kent with his daughter and/or wife.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/kenthovindsworstnightmare/permalink/1509783805857410/

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Update April 12, 2020

https://youtu.be/WbZ9AWIC8m4?t=20

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Update April 14, 2020

https://youtu.be/lsd0PZvZDbE?t=48

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Update April 22, 2020

https://youtu.be/CHl9s19IMNM?t=728

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Update May 6, 2020

Mark Stoney, in a cryptic FaceBook post, appears to be announcing the death of Mackenzie’s mother, Christan Gem Stoney (nee Davis)!

It appears no obituary was published!

It appears the funeral was yesterday!

Christan’s FaceBook Page

https://www.facebook.com/christan.g.davis.

It’s a long, sad tale of how, in parts, drugs can play a part in ravaging one’s life and cutting it short.  Christan’s father also writes:

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May 10, 2020

The Obituary

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/leeds-al/christan-davis-9166416

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Update August 17, 2020

Mark and Mackenzie remain on Kent Hovind’s 145 acre conpound near Lenox, AL.  I corrected Mark’s spelling in his post below.

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/3416970061657498

Go to link above for short videos

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Update August 31, 2020

http://kehvrlb.com/mark-stoney-kent-hovind-child-welfare

Update September 13, 2020

Update November 8, 2020

“Church” at Kent’s Conpound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R07dgkxrAio

Update November 8, 2020

“Church” at Kent’s Conpound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R07dgkxrAio

Update November 29, 2020

The Child Exploitation Continues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkVK9w91CTc

Update December 20, 2020

https://youtu.be/7xz4OQ2x1VA?t=446

 

Update January 12, 2021

Mark Stoney announces he’s leaving the conpound!

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/3832177396803427

Update May 16, 2021

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/4166669126687584

Update July 3, 2021

Mark seems to be turning a corner in his life and may now be realizing that “our” warnings were justified!

https://www.facebook.com/mark.stoney.4441/posts/4322458787775283

 

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